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Re:How I automate my home by georgeoliver on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @11:19AM (#21928664)
I'm curious what the state of the home automation installation/service market is these days; I do home renovation professionally and have a programming hobby so this seems like a fun area to get into.
Re:How I automate my home by OJFord on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @11:38AM (#21928805)
Extremely expensive proprietary kit, obsolete (or requiring expensive upgrade) after a fairly short lifespan.

But of course the market for it doesn't care, and can pay for it.

I've thought about it similarly to you, but because of the labour cost of installation, it's an expensive job whatever the cost of the hardware/software, so there's not really a reason for installers to use HomeAssistant, OpenHAB, and the like. The difference will be thousands for hardware, on top of tens of thousands for the whole install job.

Re:How I automate my home by lgunsch on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @12:09PM (#21928999)
I work with Levven Controls, and what they offer to home builders is smart home controls on every switch and light in the entire home during construction, but for less cost than traditional wiring. There are no wires going to switch boxes, so that labour and material cost savings is enough to offset the cost of smart controls.
Re:How I automate my home by CrazyStat on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:14PM (#21929489)
I assume no wires means battery powered. How long do the batteries last? Will I need to replace the batteries in all my light switches every couple years?
Re:How I automate my home by MarioMan on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @02:01PM (#21929790)
Some wireless switches use the force of flipping the switch itself to power the transmission: kinetic light switches. That means you need to press a bit harder, but there’s no need to replace batteries.
Re:How I automate my home by ghaff on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:21PM (#21929541)
They claim 10+ years. https://levven.com/products/consumer-wireless-switch-control... but I don't have any personal experience.

I know a couple of wireless X-10 switches I used to own lasted for a very long time. I'm not sure I ever replaced the batteries.

Re:How I automate my home by Symbiote on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:25PM (#21929568)
I have a similar system in my rented apartment, and there's no issue with batteries after 4 years so far.

I wouldn't choose it. Every ten pushes of the switch, nothing happens, and there's no visible / feelable state of the position of a switch.

Re:How I automate my home by lgunsch on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:34PM (#21929613)
The tactile feedback part of the switch is definitely an area we have tagged for improvement.
Re:How I automate my home by lgunsch on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:32PM (#21929598)
Batteries last 10 - 15 years with regular usage (30 on/offs a day). They use just a regular button cell battery.
Re:How I automate my home by CrazyStat on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:41PM (#21929654)
Thanks! That seems pretty reasonable.
Re:How I automate my home by Havoc on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @01:46PM (#21929693)
It's all stupid walled gardens from all the usual suspects.

The alternative is a self hosted server like haome assistant. That works but requires tinkering

Re:How I automate my home by t34543 on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @12:19PM (#21929057)
It’s lucrative. I work with URC. It’s more about integration and working around bugs/limitations. Programming isn’t so difficult compared to learning quirks of hardware. Knowing what receiver models work with a broken ARC implementation for example is something you learn on the job.
Re:How I automate my home by baseballMan on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @11:40AM (#21928815)
I think it's at a pretty good state right now. A lot of the things you'll need aren't exactly cheap (in my opinion) but you can definitely automate a lot nowadays. Check out hassio if you're interested in this sorta stuff!

https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/

Re:How I automate my home by ghaff on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @11:50AM (#21928880)
I guess my perspective is pretty different. I have some basic monitoring but most of the things I could easily automate don't rise anywhere near the top of the list of things I care about. Turning lights on and off is basically something I don't even think about.

It's cleaning, organizing, laundry, washing dishes, etc. that I'd really prefer not to do and--major appliances (and/or hiring someone) aside--there's no way to automate all that.

Re:How I automate my home by baseballMan on Wednesday January 01, 2020 @12:14PM (#21929017)
Yeah I think that it's more of a hobby for a lot of people than something that significantly improves their daily lives.