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Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 29, 2019 @04:58PM (#21908841)
Selection bias. Nobody says you have to be like that. Just ignore the article and move on.

For me, it resonates, because the perspective of "doing my job, having friends and watching movies" sounds depressingly empty to me. I want to work on the next rocket to Mars (yes, I really do want to work on space rockets - because I care about space rockets).

I don't buy into the pressure you're seeing either. If your heart doesn't drive you to strive for meaning in your own work, then you won't be happy chasing it because social pressure tells you to. Not everyone ticks this way, and this is fine.

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by arez on Sunday December 29, 2019 @05:14PM (#21908938)
it's not just this article. I feel the pressure in my every day life. I already have a job that fulfills me and where I give 100%, does that mean I will be the next CTO, no probably not, so I can't even claim to push my career that much.

It's just that you read online about all these people that do open-source stuff, create their own website/business, build tools, do research etc. that you feel left out and the big pressure to do something meaningful. In addition nowadays you have to do something meaningful for the world, but it's hard to impress the world or the community, because in your community (like the hacker-news, reddit, indie hacker) there are now thousands or millions of people, you have to do something very substantial to actual get noticed.

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by hoorayimhelping on Sunday December 29, 2019 @05:34PM (#21909068)
>I already have a job that fulfills me and where I give 100%, does that mean I will be the next CTO, no probably not, so I can't even claim to push my career that much.

What more do you want? Think of how many people there are in the world who want that. Who just wish they didn't dread waking up every morning to go to work. I love my job and I'm completely fulfilled with it. It's all how you look at it - we've made it as far as I'm concerned, anything else is icing on the cake.

Really, the question you might want to ask yourself is: do you even want to be a CTO? I don't, it sounds like a set of skills and activities I don't really want to work on. I'd rather be a good engineer who helps other people grow in their career, who also gets to fish and surf in the morning and play video games in the evening.

Whenever I feel the way you're feeling, I think back to this quote by Kurt Vonnegut about Joseph Heller:

True story, Word of Honor:

Joseph Heller, an important and funny writer now dead, and I were at a party given by a billionaire on Shelter Island.

I said, "Joe, how does it make you feel to know that our host only yesterday may have made more money than your novel 'Catch-22' has earned in its entire history?"

And Joe said, "I've got something he can never have."

And I said, "What on earth could that be, Joe?"

And Joe said, "The knowledge that I've got enough."

Not bad! Rest in peace!

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by bobthepanda on Sunday December 29, 2019 @05:35PM (#21909078)
The pressure only matters if you feel like you want to "impress the world", whatever that means. The same way that the whole influencer rat race only really matters if you want to be an influencer. And if you do want to do those things, the question is "why?"

People don't write about ordinary lives normally because they don't get clicks and they don't grab attention. But if you're not seeking attention why does it matter?

It's partially why I enjoy the Great British Baking Show; all the bakers are otherwise perfectly ordinary people living ordinary lives, and they just bake as their hobby and the competition is relatively cheerful. Compare that to most American reality shows where all the people do is live and breathe being a master chef literally every second of their lives and everything is extremely stressful.

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by james_s_tayler on Monday December 30, 2019 @02:34AM (#21911510)
Think of them like the 1% of the tech community. Yes, it can be done. No it's likely you it will be you. And that's fine. Though it can feel like "how the hell are these insanely productive people able to do all this stuff when I can barely even brush my teeth twice a day?".

Don't sweat it. Just like there are billionaires, there are also these mystical productivity billionaires. It's a cool thing to behold but it's very much not the norm.

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by grawprog on Sunday December 29, 2019 @07:08PM (#21909607)
>it's not just this article. I feel the pressure in my every day life.

Why? It's your life. You're the only one living it. Live it how you want. It doesn't matter what other people do. If you're happy and fulfilled doing the things you do, that's awesome. Honestly, that's really the best most people can and should strive for in their lives. Some people just aren't contented or fulfilled doing those things, that's fine too.

Everyone lives their own life, it's cool to see what other people do and be inspired by it, but no one's really forcing you if you really don't want to. But if you feel pressure, maybe you're not as fulfilled as you think?

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by solveit on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:58PM (#21909557)
You feel left out because you are rightly left out. You're not interested in what they're doing, and so they're not interested in you. I don't see the problem here. Why are you asking to get noticed?
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by friedman23 on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:44PM (#21909468)
What are you asking for? Do you want people to appreciate you for coasting?
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by freepor on Sunday December 29, 2019 @05:59PM (#21909233)
For me everything changed within 15 minutes of becoming a father. I used to want to change the world. Startups promotions etc. My son showed me a point on the line that was so far out that when I zoomed out, I couldn’t see the career stuff as anything other than a point on the origin. Now the only thing that gives me meaning is my children.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by cbsks on Sunday December 29, 2019 @07:33PM (#21909747)
I’m the same way. I used to have grand career ambitions, but now I have a young daughter who has become my sole focus. I have a stable job which pays me enough to comfortably support my family, has a healthy my work/life balance, and gives me interesting projects to work on. That’s all that I need from my career at this point in my life.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:06PM (#21909269)
For me it didn't. I'm a father of a 6 months old daughter, and so far parenthood didn't manage to take over all my dreams and ambitions entirely.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by icelancer on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:10PM (#21909293)
Likewise. Only made me more driven to make sure that I make enough money to take care of my family if the worst should come to pass.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:24PM (#21909369)
That's something else still. But yes, I've become more driven and more focused on ensuring financial safety for my family as well, in addition to not losing much of my interests so far.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by cpach on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:13PM (#21909307)
That could change the coming years. I’m not saying it will. But it could.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:38PM (#21909442)
I hope it won't.

I mean, this was probably my biggest fear about parenthood. Observing other parents, I've noticed that a lot of them lost everything that made them interesting. The kids are the only things they care about now. I don't see this as a good thing - not for parents, and not for the children. If a parent's entire self gets consumed by child-rearing, what example do they set for their children? That the point of their adult life is to have a (arbitrary, but hopefully well-paying) job in order to support their own children, perpetuating the cycle of doing nothing but breeding and dying? Isn't that meaningless and boring? To me, it is. And I'd hazard a guess that this is where midlife crisis comes from - when one's children are self-sufficient and the role of a parent is over, one realizes they have a 20 years old hole in their life, into which everything they were disappeared.

(This is my perspective as of right now. But the funny thing with perspectives is that they depend on where you stand - so who knows, maybe I'm wrong now and three years from now I'll be arguing the exact opposite? I don't expect to, but I can't rule it out.)

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by qznc on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:50PM (#21909504)
I'm 8 years in and I still have other ambitions. My guess is your hope has a good chance. :)
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by TeMPOraL on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:53PM (#21909521)
Thank you for the reassurance!
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by icelancer on Monday December 30, 2019 @03:46AM (#21911810)
It (probably) won't. My kids are years older than yours and I have only increased my workload, transitioning from an FTE at a software shop to running a small business (not out of my house).
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by TeMPOraL on Monday December 30, 2019 @07:15AM (#21912799)
> (not out of my house)

That's an important point, isn't it?

Home office is a wonderful thing, but now that I'm a dad, I find myself wishing for an actual, external office. Not because I don't like my own home, but because catching even a tiniest fragment of my daughter's cry next door is incredibly, incredibly distracting - even though my wife is taking care of her perfectly, I have to fight myself to not just get out of the study and render assistance.

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by icelancer on Monday December 30, 2019 @06:07PM (#21917518)
No question. I have a home office as well but I rarely work out of it unless it's very late or very early.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by edejong on Sunday December 29, 2019 @05:08PM (#21908899)
Thanks, your answer resonates with me. To add to it, a life goal doesn't need to be exorbital (pun intended). Just know what you are working towards, and take pride in the steps towards your end goal.
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by aylmao on Sunday December 29, 2019 @05:34PM (#21909071)
This used to be me. At some point down the line I discovered I had "progress" wrong all along.

Just make sure to not let your passion drive you too far from loved ones. (:

Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by marapuru on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:06PM (#21909274)
Could you share the different notions you had of "progress", then and now?
Re:Focus has become more valuable than intelligence (2018) by cambalache on Sunday December 29, 2019 @06:45PM (#21909476)
How old are you