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Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by rmolin88 on Saturday December 28, 2019 @11:58AM (#21899979)
Buy any 4K that fits your budget. Just don't connect it to your WiFi.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by zingermc on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:12PM (#21900083)
This assumes a certain (low) level of malicious intent. A fully malicious TV will connect to open WiFi nearby or use even more exotic methods to exfiltrate data.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by gruez on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:30PM (#21900215)
>A fully malicious TV will connect to open WiFi nearby

Connect to your own wifi and block any traffic?

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by Nextgrid on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:41PM (#21900306)
If you've got logic to connect to nearby open Wi-Fi, why wouldn't you also use it as a fallback if the primary Wi-Fi is down?

Even if they don't do this yet it's only a matter of time before the manufacturers catch on and start doing so.

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by gruez on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:54PM (#21900405)
In that case, the only hope you have is play the cat and mouse game and hope they give up before you do. Realistically though, they probably won't bother escalate past this point because the people who would go to such lengths are a tiny minority, and going after them don't make business sense.

>If you've got logic to connect to nearby open Wi-Fi, why wouldn't you also use it as a fallback if the primary Wi-Fi is down?

One idea to counter this would be to use something like this[1] to deauth the TV instantly, or spam a bunch of open networks so it gets stuck trying to connect to those rather than actually working ones.

[1] https://github.com/spacehuhn/esp8266_deauther

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by Nextgrid on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:56PM (#21900422)
The problem is that putting up with this doesn't actually send a message to the manufacturer that this is not OK, so they'll just keep doing this and perfecting their malware-like techniques until it's completely unblockable without some military-grade signal jamming equipment.

Even if it can be blocked, I don't recommend anyone buy these and look for alternatives (commercial displays, old second-hand ones, https://ironcast.tv, etc)

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by zingermc on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:40PM (#21900299)
You're still assuming it won't detect this and periodically phone home from an open network.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by OrgNet on Saturday December 28, 2019 @12:22PM (#21900149)
It might be better to buy a dumb computer monitor
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by zzo38computer on Saturday December 28, 2019 @01:09PM (#21900525)
Yes, I know someone who did that, although for a different reason (to reduce lag).
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by m-p-3 on Saturday December 28, 2019 @01:05PM (#21900500)
They don't have those in 70" sadly.
Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by gl00pp on Saturday December 28, 2019 @06:40PM (#21902636)
Want to vouch for the projector route if you aren't a total definitionphile.

I have a $80 one off Amazon with 4000 4.5 star reviews. Gives about a 8'x6' pic on my bedroom wall. Has all the inputs.

Eighty dollars!

Re:Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content ... by pedrocr on Saturday December 28, 2019 @03:10PM (#21901422)
Getting a projector is a good option these days. They're cheap and can give you a home theater experience with easily twice that size. Just measured my setup and it ends up at ~130" diagonally.

There are limitations in the room you can use (not too bright, big white wall, good place to place the projector). But if you can manage it I strongly suggest it.