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Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by rednum on Monday February 07, 2011 @01:16PM (#2189989)
Previous discussion on HN concerning the same slides (minus the guys comments): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2106553

tldr: start small, don't set bullshit goals, it acually is hard. much harder than you think

Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by praptak on Monday February 07, 2011 @04:20PM (#2190820)
"it acually is hard. much harder than you think"

Actually "assuming that behavior change is difficult" is listed as the tenth mistake.

Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by joe_the_user on Monday February 07, 2011 @06:53PM (#2191298)
Ah, "It's hard but it can't be difficult"...

Paradoxes like this always frustrated me so I worked-out a more concrete model for these change systems:

You've got "area of behavior" which you've got good conscious control over and where you can plan and work hard. You've got another "another area of behavior" where you don't have much conscious control and you tend to screw-up in.

You want to work hard within the area you do control to create a framework where things are relatively easy for you in the area you don't control.

You don't want to just throw a lot of effort at the area you don't control, you don't want to discourage yourself concerning the area you don't control. You want to have clearly understandable goals in the area you don't control.

And so you want the "heavy lifting" to be within the area you do control.

Now, "hard" is for the work in creating your framework. "not difficult" is for the experience you have within the framework.

Make sense?

Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by praptak on Tuesday February 08, 2011 @03:24AM (#2192375)
Definitely. I think that it applies to their method too - setting up the triggers and making the behaviour easier is the "hard" part within your control.
Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by gnufied on Monday February 07, 2011 @01:23PM (#2190018)
Aha, I did not see that. Thanks for pointing out.

I liked and appreciate MenTaLguY's commentary anyways.

Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by Datasta on Monday February 07, 2011 @03:40PM (#2190614)
I missed this the first time around, so I'm glad it got popular again. Good presentation.
Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by ericlavigne on Monday February 07, 2011 @09:36PM (#2191686)
The best part is the link to captology at the end. I especially like this video. (I replace "simple" with "easy", because I think it's a better description of what he's talking about.)

http://vimeo.com/2094487

The difficulty/easiness of an action has six components: time, money, physical effort, brain cycles, social deviance, and non-routine.

Thus, the overall difficulty/easiness of an action depends on the resource profile of the person performing that action. That profile varies wildly from person to person, as well as according to context. Awareness of your own resource profile is important for self-control, and awareness of other people's resource profiles is important for persuasion.

The captology site also discusses using triggers to tilt the odds in your favor. The most effective variety of trigger depends on both difficulty and motivation level.

http://captology.stanford.edu/projects/behaviordesign.html

Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by dmethvin on Monday February 07, 2011 @06:03PM (#2191173)
A related BJ Fogg post from 2004 that would be useful for startups, "Ten Ways Computers Manipulate People." The only place I could find it was at archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/20041204095306/http://captology.s...

Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by code_duck on Monday February 07, 2011 @04:09PM (#2190762)
I was hoping this was going to be about UI behavior change.
Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by TheSOB88 on Monday February 07, 2011 @04:16PM (#2190800)
If anyone wants to read a book on behavioral change, try "Switch" by Chip Heath and Dan Heath. It's sooooo goooood.
Re:Top Mistakes in Behavior Change by bobf on Monday February 07, 2011 @05:35PM (#2191080)
Indeed. For me, one of the key takeaways was that to successfully implement lasting change, you must appeal to emotion. Logic is not enough.