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Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by Ill_ban_myself on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:34AM (#21864214)
Started as an intern at Boeing in 1985. 34 year career down in flames. Ouch.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by dylan604 on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:40AM (#21864261)
Going down in flames is a lot less dramatic when you have a nice golden parachute to ease the crash.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by huy-nguyen on Monday December 23, 2019 @11:12AM (#21864573)
Plot twist: the parachute runs MCAS.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by usrusr on Monday December 23, 2019 @11:21AM (#21864656)
Golden parachutes are primarily handed out to those who are hired from the open C-level circuit into a house already on fire. They have the bargaining position to demand the "heads I win tails you lose" contracts that are known as golden parachutes. Someone who internally rose through the ranks never enjoyed that much bargaining power. He surely won't fall into poverty, but landing might not be quite as soft soft as you imagine. (not ruling out the possibility though)
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by Sharlin on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:56AM (#21864418)
Somehow I can’t find in myself one single bit of sympathy for him. As opposed to the people who, you know, literally went down with the planes. What’s the value of one rich man’s career in the face of that? Exactly zero.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by ulfw on Monday December 23, 2019 @11:00AM (#21864462)
I'm sure he won't have to collect food stamps. Come on.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by bb123 on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:59AM (#21864445)
Down in flames is possibly an unfortunate choice of words here.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by middlechild9 on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:41AM (#21864269)
I mean, it was still a great run.

Being a public company CEO is a near-impossible job with so much out of your control, so I wouldn't say "down in flames". His legacy is tarnished, but the public has a short-term memory about these things.

Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by unstatusthequo on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:44AM (#21864299)
Seems to me he may have been part of the culture problem then? Bad habits develop...
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by ben509 on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:57AM (#21864423)
Certainly having started from scratch at the company would help him as a leader as the rank and file knew that he had been in their shoes, at one time. But, yeah, being steeped in the culture may very well have been part of this problem as well.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by kodt on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:47AM (#21864319)
Yes, and he didn't come from money. Grew up on a farm in Iowa.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by AnimalMuppet on Monday December 23, 2019 @12:35PM (#21865283)
Hmm. There's been a lot of talk here about the Boeing culture vs. the Lockheed culture, and how the Lockheed culture took over after the merger. Yet the CEO was a Boeing guy, not a Lockheed guy.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by Rebelgecko on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:04PM (#21865560)
Boeing and Lockheed aren't merged as companies, they're only combined for building launch vehicles. They created ULA as a joint venture. It was a weird situation where it made sense for both companies— Lockheed basically lost all of their trade secrets to Boeing after they did a crazy amount of industrial espionage. After a few Boeing employees went to jail, Boeing lost all of their launch contracts and were banned from bidding on any for a few years. Even after the ban ended they were in rough shape financially.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by pseudalopex on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:47PM (#21866012)
Do you mean McDonnell Douglas?

Muilenberg became CEO 18 years after the merger. I wouldn't expect him to exemplify Boeing's old culture. It was also only 6 months before the first 737 MAX flight.

Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by AnimalMuppet on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:51PM (#21866048)
Oops. Yes.

His lineage is in the Boeing culture, not the McDonnell Douglas culture.

Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by xigency on Monday December 23, 2019 @03:06PM (#21866845)
That's true but he came from the defense side of Boeing.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by pseudalopex on Monday December 23, 2019 @02:38PM (#21866574)
People can adapt to new cultures.
Re:Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens by CydeWeys on Monday December 23, 2019 @10:54AM (#21864388)
He made his bed.