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Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by matthew-wegner on Sunday December 22, 2019 @03:50PM (#21859573)
New gestures introduced in iOS 13:

  Copy: three-finger pinch
  Cut: three-finger double pinch
  Paste: three-finger pinch out (expand)
  Undo: three-finger swipe left (or three-finger double tap)
  Redo: three-finger swipe right
  Shortcut menu: three-finger single tap
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by blackhaz on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:59PM (#21859935)
This is fucking horrible. Worth an episode in Silicon Valley horrible. What I hate most about the new Apple devices is that I always do something that produces a gesture or a hidden function. Grab iPhone quickly by the sides - get a screenshot. Swipe with four fingers looking North shaking - get something else. Who the hell needs all this crap?
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by saagarjha on Sunday December 22, 2019 @06:55PM (#21860500)
> Grab iPhone quickly by the sides - get a screenshot.

That’s not a gesture, that’s you pressing the side buttons.

Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by SebastianKra on Monday December 23, 2019 @07:28AM (#21863200)
I could make a similar comment about how keyboard shortcuts are "fucking horrible".

> Who the hell needs all this crap? Who the hell needs keyboard shortcuts?

Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by robertoandred on Sunday December 22, 2019 @08:53PM (#21860954)
Or just use the long-press menu like you have been for ten years? Nothing changed.
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by zik on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:38PM (#21859840)
I would never guess any of those gestures. It's very much the opposite of intuitive.
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by dmitriid on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:11PM (#21859699)
While doing all that they broke "slide finger across screen to move cursor easily"
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by manicdee on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:37PM (#21859833)
Now that's press and hold on the keyboard to move the cursor without your finger being in the way so you can never figure out where the cursor is going to land in "teh".
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by dmitriid on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:45PM (#21859875)
You could always figure that out thanks to the maginfication you had. The took that away
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by manicdee on Sunday December 22, 2019 @08:52PM (#21860949)
For me the magnifier didn’t help since the cursor would always move as I lifted my finger.
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by hellofunk on Monday December 23, 2019 @03:39AM (#21862280)
I have no idea what any of these gestures are and I’m using iOS 13, and I just tried a couple of them and doesn’t seem to do anything. How do you copy with a three finger pinch?!
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by veddox on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:39PM (#21859850)
I was really excited to see multitasking coming with iPadOS 13. Unfortunately, it turns out to be absolutely horrible to use and insists on turning itself on with annoying regularity...
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by mc3 on Sunday December 22, 2019 @07:13PM (#21860594)
Anything that needs 3 coordinated fingers is surely an accessibility hurdle.
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by chrbarrol on Sunday December 22, 2019 @05:57PM (#21860208)
My first Apple product was a iPad Pro I got last year. I consider myself quite tech savvy, but the gestures was a huge pain-point when learning the device, to the point that it soured the whole experience for me:

When trying to find the WiFi toggle button (which is accomplished by "pinching" the screen) I basically just tried every possible gesture until I found the right one (I know that some gesture opened it from watching others). By far the worst and most memorable UX problem of the year.

Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by robertoandred on Sunday December 22, 2019 @08:53PM (#21860958)
WiFi toggle is in the Settings app where it's always been. What's so confusing about that?
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by umbos on Sunday December 22, 2019 @07:11PM (#21860580)
Why wouldn't you just Google it? It would have taken you two seconds and then you'd have known all about control centre and how to access it.

Besides, none of those gestures are actually necessary; you could have gone settings app > Wifi > turn wifi on/off.

Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by hu3 on Sunday December 22, 2019 @07:35PM (#21860674)
> Why wouldn't you just Google it

You shouldn't have to Google for basic functionality such as WiFi toggle button.

Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by Zarath on Sunday December 22, 2019 @10:41PM (#21861340)
Right, and you don't. Going to settings and toggling it is fairly obvious.
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by bouke on Monday December 23, 2019 @06:01AM (#21862864)
I think that after disabling WiFi, there's no Googling possible.
Re:Apple's products are getting harder to use, ignore princi... by whywhywhywhy on Monday December 23, 2019 @09:21AM (#21863714)
> Why wouldn't you just Google it?

What if the problem was how to turn it on?