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Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by softwaredoug on Sunday December 22, 2019 @02:56AM (#21855850)
Probably also too many people are focused on a solution, and not problems for specific domains. Learning more about deep learning is cool, but in practice, most problems in domains need domain expertise combined with more mundane models. This is particularly true when you need to rally domain experts help - folks able to understand logistic regression more easily than a complex deep learning model.
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by MAXPOOL on Sunday December 22, 2019 @04:58AM (#21856223)
NeurIPS should be about fundamental science not about applied science and engineering solutions for specific domains.

Science vs applications would be actually a good way to divide NeurIPS into two conferences to get focus back: NeurIPS and Applied NeurIPS. One wold present science, the other tweaks, tricks and methods to solve everyday problems.

Papers like "Partially Encrypted Deep Learning using Functional Encryption", "Dancing to Music", "Differentiable Cloth Simulation for Inverse Problems" would go go the engineering conference for the "most people".

Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by elcomet on Sunday December 22, 2019 @06:02AM (#21856465)
> Partially Encrypted Deep Learning using Functional Encryption

I don't agree about this one. It does seem fundamental science to me.

Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by b3kart on Sunday December 22, 2019 @06:44AM (#21856640)
And here we see the problem with this particular way of splitting. Although I agree NeurIPS needs to be split up somehow.
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by nabla9 on Sunday December 22, 2019 @07:56AM (#21856891)
Encrypting deep learning is problem for practical applications that require privacy. That's applied science.
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by elcomet on Sunday December 22, 2019 @08:54AM (#21857098)
Well machine learning is applied science. But inside there are theoretical work (like encrypted machine learning or optimization theory) and practical work (like text2speech, or other tasks)
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by Vervious on Sunday December 22, 2019 @01:10PM (#21858642)
Disagree. Theory is always interested in building better, simpler protocols, asking questions about lower bounds and possibility. See almost all of fundamental crypto research.
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by ses1984 on Sunday December 22, 2019 @08:10AM (#21856949)
How do you suppose you're going to provide theoretical assurance of privacy and correctness without science?
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by nabla9 on Sunday December 22, 2019 @08:55AM (#21857105)
Maybe I'm wrong but I see this as applied vs fundamental, not "without science" issue.
Re:NeurIPS 2019 Notes [pdf] by softwaredoug on Sunday December 22, 2019 @09:48AM (#21857357)
Right I agree. I mean to try to explain why so many go to this conference, not to criticize the conference itself.