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Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by dayaz36 on Saturday December 21, 2019 @12:37AM (#21849825)
Are all tech companies just copying Elon now?
Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by ulfw on Saturday December 21, 2019 @04:16AM (#21850472)
Elon God Musk. Sole inventor of online payments, solar panels, electric cars, tunnels and satellites.

Silicon Valley hubris at its best

Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by sgt on Saturday December 21, 2019 @06:57AM (#21850876)
I don't think Elon claims any of those things. I think what he brings is a unique clarity that is hard for others to replicate when looking at ideas that already exist.

By leveraging this clarity he can Get Things Done™, and we've seen tangible proof of that already with Tesla and SpaceX.

Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by m11a on Saturday December 21, 2019 @08:00AM (#21851045)
Elon may not, but his followers do. And Elon takes advantage of his Tony Stark persona people have made for him greatly. I don't blame him for that, of course.

For everything he does deliver, there's 5 promises that he didn't. Humans on Mars by 2024, infrastructure on Mars by 2022? Model 3 was greatly delayed. $35k price point promise?

I'm not anti-Elon, the opposite actually; he does great work and his companies have contributed a lot and indeed solved many problems. But I really do wish people would tone down the hype over him sometimes. Half of what he says isn't even in realistic development, it just sees a trailer, and the next thing you know there's another product announced and people have forgotten all about that one.

Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by threeseed on Saturday December 21, 2019 @12:52AM (#21849864)
You do know that Elon didn't invent nor is the first company to have internet satellites.

They are actually pretty common.

Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by coding123 on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:10AM (#21849910)
Low earth orbit peer-to-peer low cost internet is very different from what the old guard in this "space" is up to. And it is in that sense that they are copying Elon. (edit: I thought Facebook was first to announce this, but apparently it was indeed first inspired by SpaceX).
Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by jerich on Saturday December 21, 2019 @03:13AM (#21850284)
Take a look at what Teledesic was planning in the late 90s. Elon’s a great guy, but nothing I see about Starlink is innovative over what they were working on over 20 years ago.
Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by mft_ on Saturday December 21, 2019 @06:29AM (#21850805)
This is something I see people misunderstand time and time again; “innovation” isn’t just inventing an entirely new novel product.

Musk is not about innovation in terms of entirely new products. As other posters have commented, rockets, electric cars, and Internet satellites have all been done before.

Where he seems to be special is having the vision to see opportunities to develop or scale existing products much further than incumbents, and having the confidence/chutzpah/bloody-mindedness to pull it off.

However, through the development required to meet his challenging goals, his teams often need to innovate significantly - this innovation is often exceptional.

And of course, what makes a large-scale global Internet satellite service viable is actually the ability to reuse launch rockets - one of his other major innovations.

Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by dayaz36 on Saturday December 21, 2019 @10:57PM (#21855080)
Global high speed satellite internet is "pretty common"? Cool. Where do I sign up?
Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by taneq on Saturday December 21, 2019 @07:58AM (#21851038)
Musk's playbook is actually much more likely based on Apple's than vice versa. Apple doesn't make entirely new things, they spot emerging fields and finesse the state of the art until it looks like an entirely new product. The original (Apple / Macintosh / MacBook / iPod / iPhone) didn't do anything that other X couldn't do, it was just better integrated and slicker.
Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by dimator on Saturday December 21, 2019 @04:41AM (#21850546)
Yeesh, the Elon idolizing is getting tedious.
Re:Apple has a secret team working on internet satellites by Dylan16807 on Saturday December 21, 2019 @05:31AM (#21850660)
Idolizing? The idea that some skunkworks segment of Apple is copying him is not a statement about whether his ideas are good or bad.