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Re:The hardest aspect of learning English as a second language by xpil on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @08:41AM (#21824660)
My words exactly. There's over 3000 phrasal verbs in English and memorizing them is pain in the hole (plus it makes no sense). The only effective way of learning them is to submerge yourself in the language by listening to plenty of audiobooks or moving abroad where English is spoken natively.

I'm Polish myself and hit a hard wall with phrasals when I moved over to Ireland 13 years ago. I still keep discovering new ones every now and then despite living here for over a decade.

Re:The hardest aspect of learning English as a second language by V-2 on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @09:01AM (#21824854)
We kind of do the same thing, only in the form of prefixes (podać, wydać, zdać, zadać, oddać, poddać, nadać, przydać etc. and on and on it goes). Ultimately it boils down to the same thing - little syllabic bits altering the meaning of the verb.
Re:The hardest aspect of learning English as a second language by iforgotpassword on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @09:11AM (#21824970)
Yes, It's exactly the same in German. So I guess I don't agree with this comment thread at all - It's just learning vocabulary. I never felt like this is a specific problem when learning English. I much more agree with the article: Spelling + pronunciation is just fubar and the greatest annoyance.
Re:The hardest aspect of learning English as a second language by josefrichter on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @09:39AM (#21825240)
You are right, didn't realize we do the same in most Slavic languages and it's common in German too. It just always seemed to me that it's much more common in English. But I have no numbers to support that, so I might be completely wrong.
Re:The hardest aspect of learning English as a second language by StavrosK on Wednesday December 18, 2019 @08:54AM (#21824783)
I managed to learn the pronunciation and phrasal verbs, but prepositions still get me from time to time...
Re:The hardest aspect of learning English as a second language by ramblerman on Thursday December 19, 2019 @08:46AM (#21834818)
> The only effective way of learning them is to submerge yourself in the language by listening to plenty of audiobooks or moving abroad where English is spoken natively.

That's the only way to learn the quirks and idioms of any language really.