They aren't that great for books anymore, either. They've starting shipping books in a padded envelope that don't do much to protect the book. I've ordered a number of books that have arrived all beat up. Not a big deal for a cheap novel that I'm going to read and then give away, or a school textbook that I don't care about beyond the class.

However, the last book I ordered from them was Python in a Nutshell about a year ago. It's an expensive book, so I was less willing to tolerate damage to a $50 book that I want to keep and use a lot. I had to return it twice to get one that wasn't beat all to hell. And even then I feel like I settled for something not in as good condition as I expected.

Amazon used to put books between two pieces of cardboard, shrinkwrap it, then put it in a box with padding. Books always arrived in good condition. Books in the padded envelope always arrive with crushed corners, and sometimes damage to the cover.

The same problem exists for books. Look at No Starch Press as an example: https://twitter.com/billpollock/status/1183094406573748225?s...

If they could manage to ship them. I returned 5 in a row wanting an undamaged coffe table book, i was forced to give up. I have books from the 1700s in better shape than what regularly arrives from amazon.

Last book I got from Amazon was either a counterfeit or done on some sort of ultra low quality press. The paper was like cheap printer paper and the binding was falling apart. The printing was crooked too.