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Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by sitkack on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:51PM (#21816308)
All platforms not under your control should be viewed as a risk.

> Pretty much anything that isn't basic compute VMs, storage, or out of the box Kubernetes.

I think this is perfectly healthy and a stance you should take everywhere.

Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by scarface74 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:54PM (#21816347)
This is certainly not as true with Microsoft or AWS. You remember the old saying that “no one ever got fired for buying IBM”? If someone bet the farm on IBM in the 70s, they could still buy compatible systems.

Do you think you are at more risk betting your enterprise on Microsoft or Google?

Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by OnlineGladiator on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:10PM (#21816561)
> Do you think you are at more risk betting your enterprise on Microsoft or Google?

Microsoft? No.

Google? Absolutely.

I don't trust Google for anything that isn't related to selling ads. And I trust they will maintain their relationship for God-fucking-awful customer support. And I assume they will continue their tradition of sunsetting projects haphazardly.

I don't know why anyone would trust Google today.

Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by skinkestek on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:45PM (#21817066)
After seeing how amazingly much better Facebook properties targets ads I won't even trust Google to do that.

Lately I've been using Instagram multiple times a month and the ads I get there are relvant, sometimes even useful (I once actually bought a product from one such ad that I actually like and wouldn't have been aware of without, and I am a typical HNer that have always said ads are wasted on me, because they have been for 10 years).

Contrast this to Google who has way more datapoints on me yet end up showing ads asking if I have old mens problems or suggest I join a dating site for elderly. And that is just the icing on the cake: they've been pushing dating sites ever since I got engaged over 5 years ago.

My account might be a fluke but I guess I am not allne.

Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by delecti on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @05:26PM (#21819598)
I don't think you're a fluke at all. I've heard lots of "complaints" about how accurate Instagram ads are, because the products being advertised are so appealing. I've experienced it too, the ads I see on Instagram are almost all things I could see myself buying.
Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by dralley on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:08PM (#21816540)
Even the newest mainframes are still compatible with code and binaries from the 1960s. You might pay out the ass for the privilege, but it's a legitimately impressive technical accomplishment.
Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by kazen44 on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @03:35PM (#21818491)
heck, even 3xx series systems are still compatible on modern IBM mainframes.

you can say alot about IBM, but excellent compatibility is not one its weaknesses.

Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by paulddraper on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @03:44PM (#21818599)
> I think this is perfectly healthy and a stance you should take everywhere.

There is tons of value for non-VPS: serverless functions, messaging queues, object storage, managed databases, CDNs, monitoring infrastructure, load balancers, etc.

Unless of course they aren't going to disappear or gouge you in a couple years. But AWS is very unlikely to do that.

Re:Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microso... by AaronFriel on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:28PM (#21816824)
It makes sense to take advantage of platform features if you expect stability and for those features to ease your development process in some way that justifies the cost of vendor dependence.

There are certainly features of Google Cloud that meet the latter criteria, but stability? This leaked report suggests we shouldn't expect that past 2023.