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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by pcwalton on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:15PM (#21815780)
> New cities, we desperately need. The entire housing fiasco is caused by an imbalance between the number of jobs and the amount of housing. all the jobs are, ironically, in places that really don't want to grow. so the logical thing to do, is to move those jobs to new places that do want to grow.

Even if this strategy did work (it doesn't), it's a terrible idea for the environment and quality of life. This is how Los Angeles got super-commutes from the never-ending sprawl of the Inland Empire.

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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by robertoandred on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:50PM (#21816285)
The high density of urban areas and the usage of public transit are much better for the environment than suburbs where you need a car to do anything.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by mcguire on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:27PM (#21815947)
And how's your commute in SF?
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by doublement on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @12:33PM (#21816039)
Commutes to SF via BART train are fine from the denser, inner-ring suburbs. Commutes from the sprawl area in Contra Costa County are horrendous.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by baby on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:09PM (#21816549)
It’s hell. I spend 3 hours per day in a shuttle.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by boring_twenties on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @03:23PM (#21818353)
No amount of money is worth this IMO. That's 30 hours a week, you could almost do a whole nother full time job with that.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by deathanatos on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @05:47PM (#21819801)
> 3 hours per day

> That's 30 hours a week

It's 15 hours per week, unless parent is a time traveller. (3 hours per day, not 3 hours one way.)

I also used to be in the Bay, and that's about right; 3-4 hours per day. It's fucked.

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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by boring_twenties on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @06:52PM (#21820359)
You're right, I mistakenly doubled again for the round trip. Still, 15 hours a week is insane if you step back and look at it. Imagine all the things you could learn and do with that time every single week.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by pcwalton on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:00PM (#21816432)
Pretty ideal, actually. Muni works fine.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by baby on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:09PM (#21816554)
Every European cities proved you wrong.
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Re:Is It Time for the US to Drag Jobs Out of Silicon Valley ... by pcwalton on Tuesday December 17, 2019 @01:28PM (#21816815)
European cities prove that density doesn't work? What?
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