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A comment on Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out.

Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by riter on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:48PM (#21785297)
This article does seem a bit intellectually dishonest. Its sleight of hand to point out countries that have more robots than we do, do so with "no ill effects". There are secondary and tertiary reasons why more automation in SK or DE does less damage to the blue collar Korean or German than the American for reasons like corporate culture, social welfare, etc.

Our issues have everything to do with boardroom and executive policy and profit maximalism.

What bodes well for South Korea and Germany are their social and corporate welfare systems which are a completely different cultural makeup than ours.

Also, manufacturing as a whole HAS improved throughput over the decades, just with less humans:

https://qz.com/1269172/the-epic-mistake-about-manufacturing-...

https://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/10/10/12933426/27-charts-...

The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis' chart seems at odds with the chart from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.

I'd like to see more journalism with less cherry picking and more delivery of a whole picture.

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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by fatjokes on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:54PM (#21785346)
Agreed. In fact, Yang's platform isn't so much stop-the-robots, but rather to make our culture (social and corporate welfare systems) align closer to a world that is friendly toward robots.
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by dominotw on Friday December 13, 2019 @03:58PM (#21785391)
> Yang's platform isn't so much stop-the-robots

no one is claiming that this is his platform though.

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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by bnjms on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:06PM (#21785470)
Isn’t that the implication of the headline? I.e. “No robots nothing to fear.”
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by dominotw on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:27PM (#21785684)
its disputing his claims about effects on society not that yang trying to stop robots.
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by bnjms on Saturday December 14, 2019 @02:30PM (#21791592)
As you know, you are right. But that isn’t the superficial reading of “robots are replacing jobs”. The article makes the point that some people like Bill DeBlasio will try to outlaw automation and robots.
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by yongjik on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:27PM (#21785681)
South Korea is probably not a good example. Blue collar workers of SK are definitely not doing OK (though it probably has very little to do with robots). This year, 1,300+ died from workplace accidents.
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by CountSessine on Friday December 13, 2019 @05:01PM (#21785984)
I’m guessing, given that you said Blue Collar, that includes construction? What’s the number for the US?
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by xster on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:19PM (#21785598)
Besides the whole Bloomberg also running for president thing, I'm also just still waiting for the second shoe to drop from the supermicro chip story.
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by riter on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:27PM (#21785679)
What super micro chip story?
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Re:Andrew Yang’s math on the robot takeover doesn’t check out by PAGAN_WIZARD on Friday December 13, 2019 @04:37PM (#21785774)
Bloomberg reported that super micro motherboards were compromised with a Chinese spy chip the size of a grain of rice. Every one refuted it, super micro's stock fell, no new information since.
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