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Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by ghostpepper on Thursday December 12, 2019 @02:44PM (#21775553)
If Edward Snowden is to be believed then you can only be sure your phone is truly off when the battery is out.
Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by bdamm on Thursday December 12, 2019 @02:52PM (#21775633)
Yes, sadly phones with removable batteries seem to be antiques now.
Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by abawany on Thursday December 12, 2019 @04:02PM (#21776423)
There are still plenty of slightly-used phones with removable batteries that work quite well. Galaxy Note 3 and 4 (possibly 5?) for a start. I recently got a Moto E5 brand new and it too has a removable battery.
Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by a1369209993 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @04:40PM (#21776825)
Not even then; many electronic devices (PCs, for example!) have coin-cell backup batterys or large capacitors to keep RTCs and the like running during a battery replacement (or mains power outage).
Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by im3w1l on Friday December 13, 2019 @01:41AM (#21779607)
Since radio and gps use a lot of battery, I wonder if a coincell could really power them.
Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by a1369209993 on Friday December 13, 2019 @08:34PM (#21787195)
You don't actually need to transmit the data off a backup battery, just store it and ship it out once a proper power supply is reattached. (You lose the data if someone destroys their phone, but that's a much narrower range of scenarios than "turn it off, but for real".) I don't recall GPS recievers being particularly power-intensive, but there's plenty of other sensors to log, most notably the microphone.
Re:Google Gives Feds 1,500 Phone Locations in Unprecedented ... by im3w1l on Saturday December 14, 2019 @02:51AM (#21788362)
You don't use your phone for navigation a lot do you? It drains the battery very quickly.

I mentioned radio, because wifi / cell tower triangulation can be used to infer location.