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Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by auiya on Thursday December 12, 2019 @09:21AM (#21772028)
It feels like an intelligence shakedown. Nginx has a rather large install base. FSB would love to have an entry point in it I'm sure, or maybe they previously had one and are trying to gain it back?
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by LinuxBender on Thursday December 12, 2019 @12:55PM (#21774323)
NGinx is owned by F5 Networks [1]. F5 customers could probably open a case and ask what contingency plans are in place.

[1] - https://www.f5.com/company/news/press-releases/f5-completes-...

Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by kayfox on Thursday December 12, 2019 @02:09PM (#21775145)
NGINX still has separate support from F5 Support.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by LinuxBender on Thursday December 12, 2019 @03:05PM (#21775784)
Is their support team in Russia? They may have their hands tied at the moment.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by anonymousjunior on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:17AM (#21772446)
This is what's really concerning. If FSB was able to actually implement something and shell all nginx boxes (and thusly obtain SSL certs, intercept communications, etc..) imagine how much access they'd have.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by account73466 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:18AM (#21772461)
Then they would definitely advertise it by attacking the company so that the whole world would know about their secret backdoor. Very smart, indeed!
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by kick on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:53AM (#21772844)
Physical access is easier to get than remote access when you have a baton and the intelligence of a cop.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by dsl on Thursday December 12, 2019 @01:44PM (#21774862)
FSB/GRU are more than just thugs with batons, they are professionals who could easily slip in to a building at night and access computers without anyone knowing. Basically the Russian CIA.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by golergka on Thursday December 12, 2019 @05:20PM (#21777188)
GRU have been severely embarrassed quite a few times in the last few years. It does seem that they're much closer to thugs with batons.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by true_religion on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:28AM (#21772563)
Just thinking about it would have a chilling effect which to the authorities may be better than actual access.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by Filligree on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:38AM (#21773377)
I'm going to switch from nginx to Caddy, so I guess?
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by penagwin on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:20AM (#21772480)
On the flip side I feel like nginx has too high of a profile. It'd be better to target some other low level system package or npm/pip module, etc.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by stjohnswarts on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:51AM (#21773514)
that's not going to happen, too many security experts constantly monitoring nginx. That's the beauty of it being a high profile open source project.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by TheRealDunkirk on Thursday December 12, 2019 @01:07PM (#21774478)
"I keep track of these things, Clark. One of us has to."
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by oefrha on Thursday December 12, 2019 @12:38PM (#21774123)
Just like too many security experts monitoring crypto standards so NIST wouldn’t try to slip in a backdoor?
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by lawnchair_larry on Thursday December 12, 2019 @02:19PM (#21775262)
No, not similar. Crypto is very different.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by lawnchair_larry on Thursday December 12, 2019 @02:25PM (#21775339)
Conspiracy theories are fun, but no, it doesn’t feel like an intelligence shakedown if you know even a little bit about intelligence shakedowns. Or about backdooring software.

Clandestine ops have an extremely low probability of success using this strategy and nobody who does them is this incompetent. Especially not Russia.

Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by kiney on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:39AM (#21772691)
nginx is open source. I tend to use the distribution provided packages which in case of debian are reproducible builds.

(yeah, i know there's a pro version of nginx. never used it)

Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by iforgotpassword on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:01AM (#21772950)
"It's open source, someone surely is doing regular thorough security audits."
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by stjohnswarts on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:52AM (#21773539)
Auditing one of the world's most used pieces of internet facing software that also isn't "a huge codebase"? Yes I do think nginx will be just fine. Security experts are constantly combing through that sort of software looking for holes, as well as AI tools. duh. It ups your brand to find holes.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by nxc18 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @12:13PM (#21773792)
Counterpoint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed - 2 years is a long time
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by ajross on Thursday December 12, 2019 @06:56PM (#21777841)
Someone surely is doing regular thorough security audits of nginx, yes. Even at maximal cynicism, discovering a backdoor in its source code would get someone niche fame and a job at Project Zero (or a nice windfall on the black market, I guess).
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by kiney on Thursday December 12, 2019 @01:29PM (#21774689)
the thing is: you have to introduce very subtle bugs when the code is open. And if you exploit it in the millions someone is going to notice.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by iforgotpassword on Thursday December 12, 2019 @01:38PM (#21774790)
Indeed. If, as suggested, a backdoor is planted by something like a three letter agency they're not going for mass surveillance or "hacking all the things". It's a very valuable asset that you use wisely, maybe even just once if the target is worth being discovered afterwards.
Re:Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copy... by account73466 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @10:14AM (#21772411)
or maybe or maybe ...