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Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by Spooky23 on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:03PM (#21768933)
That’s the reality of modern agriculture. All of this innovation and advanced tech just squeezing a few pennies out of butter.

Check out this gentleman, a 4th generation onion farmer in upstate NY who cannot sell his onions at any price. Like many farmers in the northeast, he’ll be bankrupt in a few months.

https://twitter.com/ChrisPawelski/status/1173339453332643840...

Produce buyers use cartel tactics to suppress prices and Canadian farmers are dumping product on the market well under cost.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by Danieru on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:28PM (#21769040)
Reading his posts it sounds like what he needs are futures contracts. He is complaining of the price dropping once harvest season hits. He is claiming there is a conspiracy that once supply enter the market prices drop. Sadly due to historic reasons futures markets for onions are illegal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_Futures_Act

His plight speaks to why futures markets are important. His costs and production plans were set many months ago, yet his revenue is only decided now. With futures he could hedge downward exposure.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by Spooky23 on Thursday December 12, 2019 @11:15AM (#21773138)
I agree.

There are definitely big changes in how produce is being purchased now, with closed-market strategic sourcing replacing older markets that were more transparent. Producers are paying for increasing consumer competition in grocery.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by jelliclesfarm on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:20PM (#21769002)
Curious.. Do you not see any other upsides except saving a ‘few pennies out of butter’?

Better working conditions..less accidents..data collection. Fast delivery..efficiency?

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by Spooky23 on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:44PM (#21769100)
Not really. Labor is a constraint that has kept truly dominant players from taking over the industry.

Without that, trucks are no different than cable companies, airlines, or other capital intensive businesses. They’ll consolidate over time into oligopoly. Whatever efficiency gains appear will be eaten up by the lack of market forces.

Re:Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pen... by sjg007 on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:12PM (#21768971)
There’s another story about a guy growing Vidalia inions and selling them online...