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Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by ghostly_s on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @01:05AM (#21750062)
Appreciated, Gruber is doing some real weird editorializing on this.

Edit: well I take it back. Gruber seems to taking his usual tack when covering anything outside the Apple beat, ie. pure speculation and opinion of the sort everyone posts on Twitter but at 500 words. And with a big "they are an active sponsor of my site but I am impervious to bias" disclaimer at the top.

Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by audiometry on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @04:09AM (#21750891)
Yeah, and he orients his argument around "well the boss is right to go nuts for sending a sandy, broken suitcase to a customer" and then fails to address the myriad other far-less-defensible awful behaviors the manager demonstrated. Basically just cherry-picked the least-worst thing.
Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by tehwebguy on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @07:33AM (#21751831)
The article I read had Gruber accusing Away of a pretty shady PR game, despite them paying him lots of money.
Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by commoner on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:00PM (#21757324)
The article spreads a conspiracy theory that serves as a strange defense of Korey's actions as CEO of Away (Daring Fireball's sponsor).

> What I think happened is that once Jen Rubio and the board — who were already plotting Korey’s ouster — became aware of the story, and the all-in-on-outrage-culture/startups-are-toxic angle it was taking, they simply let it happen without pushing back whatsoever. No vast conspiracy necessary — just let it happen.

Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by paulcole on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @08:07AM (#21752061)
> If a waiter served a customer a half-eaten sandwich, I’d expect the manager to immediately berate him in front of the other staff in the kitchen

Tells you all you need to know IMO. It’s never OK to yell at someone at work.

Edit: If you're downvoting me, let me know when you think it's OK to yell at someone at work and where you work so I can never work there.

Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by sephlietz on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @10:20AM (#21753246)
Berate doesn't mean yell, perhaps?
Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by blaser-waffle on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @12:40PM (#21754665)
Semantics, but berate implies an aggressive dressing down or criticism. Yelling -- as in raising a voice -- may be a part of that, or not.

I've definitely caught a verbal beatdown from people that sounded perfectly calm and reasonably quiet the whole time.

Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by albedoa on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @10:58AM (#21763647)
I have worked in and known of environments where it became appropriate to yell. You would be right not to work there, but not for the reasons you are implying here.
Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by paulcole on Thursday December 12, 2019 @06:45PM (#21777783)
Care to elaborate?
Re:Away Fires CEO Steph Korey After Months-Long Search for H... by albedoa on Saturday December 21, 2019 @01:50AM (#21850021)
Sure! I'll elaborate on a few aspects in the hopes of covering what you are asking for:

1. It is appropriate to yell at someone when the immediate safety of yourself or another person is threatened.

2. If you accept (1), then the presence of yelling is a much narrower filter than the presence of conditions under which yelling is appropriate. Due to your stated belief that yelling is never appropriate, you see those filters as equal.

3. With (1), I have given you conditions under which I think it is appropriate to yell at someone. Those conditions are never present at my current place of work. So if, based on only those facts, you were to disqualify my place of work as one where you would work, your filter would be too wide.