Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by lbsnake7 on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:00AM
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Congratulations to her but it seems like age is seen as less of a factor in these countries. From an outside perspective, the Nordic countries have a very by the book form of government. Meaning the government/prime minister isn’t the result of the hopes and dreams of the constituents but more of how do we get things done with the least amount of turmoil. Kind of like how your local city government is run, where things seem more administrative and less political. Maybe that is the secret to their success.
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Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by toasterlovin on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:06AM
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Perhaps that is because many of the Nordic countries are about the population of a large metro area. Finland, for instance, has about 5 million people.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by MS90 on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:14AM
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Yep, that's over a million people less than the Houston metro area and nearly two million less than the Dallas metro area.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by phaemon on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:20AM
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Most US states have a population of less than 5 million.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by toasterlovin on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:27AM
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According to this[0], there are 23 states with a population of 5 million or more. So, roughly half of US states have a population as large as the country of Finland. Also, according to this[1], there are 9 metro areas in the US with a population of 5 million or more.
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories...
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistic...
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by phaemon on Monday December 09, 2019 @11:37AM
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Well, that's my point. It's about the same size as the average US state. Any time a nordic country is mentioned, there's this same comment that it is obviously easier to do XYZ there because of the small population. Well, it must be equally easy to do it in a US state, right?
Furthermore, most countries in the world have a population less than 10 million. Finland is a normal sized country - it's the US that's anomalous in that it's more like 50 normal sized countries in a union.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by toasterlovin on Monday December 09, 2019 @11:49AM
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I would guess that if you look at the northern midwestern states (which were heavily settled by people from the Nordic countries) with a population around 5 million, most of them are as well run as Finland.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by sampo on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:27AM
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What's the most powerful political position in a US state, comparable to the prime minister in European countries? Speaker of the House of Representatives? At least Michigan has a 31 yrs. old Speaker of the House currently. Or is it more like state governor is like both the European prime minister and president combined?
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by MS90 on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:38AM
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Governor is the highest position in US state governments. They're basically the president/prime minister of the state.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by sampo on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:42AM
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Ok, youngest current governor seems to be 41.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_governor...
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by CryptoBanker on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:31AM
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Also an insanely homogenous population
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by brohee on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:33AM
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People keep saying that and it's incredibly wrong, those are the countries that took more refugees per capita than about anyone else.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by GrayTextIsTruth on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:41AM
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Economic migrants. Besides, it damaged the homogeneous culture and now crime is in the rise.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by GrayTextIsTruth on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:38AM
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Less so in recent years. But Finland’s neighbor, Sweden, has been seeing a sharp rise in crime as a result.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by wavefunction on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:19AM
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At least in the US city councils there is often a hotbed of politics and corruption it seems. I consider the city-council/property-developer interface to be the greatest scale of corruption in the US.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by buboard on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:06AM
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if old people are not fighting to get the job, there 's probably not a lot of power involved
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by hourislate on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:17AM
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It's not that there is no power, My experience is that the Finns (working with them) always came to a consensus when making difficult decisions. Everyone has a voice. Just a different style of Leadership than most of the US Companies I have worked for.
Re:Finnish minister Sanna Marin, 34, to become world's young...
by wayoutthere on Monday December 09, 2019 @10:23AM
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The US' bent toward authoritarian power can be traced directly to our history of colonialism and slavery. It's written into our laws and constitution.