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Re:Android’s Commitment to Kotlin by izacus on Saturday December 07, 2019 @05:01AM (#21729423)
> I disagree: they should just dump the whole ecosystem. Kotlin is a shabby bandaid, not because the language isn’t good (no comments there) but because the substrate is a mess of bloated, terrible, OO Java nonsense. Android development is just awful no matter the language.

They should dump the most widespread mobile operating system ecosystem... because some people think API's are "OO nonsense"? Would you also want Microsoft to abandon whole Windows ecosystem just because WinAPI dates back to Win16?

This is insanity and completely ignores the reasons why ecosystems get popular.

Re:Android’s Commitment to Kotlin by sidlls on Saturday December 07, 2019 @10:25AM (#21730721)
The Android ecosystem got popular primarily for two reasons: the massive marketing effort by google and the plentiful dirt-cheap labor market in the kind of development paradigm Android is (awful, bloated Java where desperate $5/hr devs are plentiful).
Re:Android’s Commitment to Kotlin by izacus on Saturday December 07, 2019 @12:10PM (#21731299)
If any of that would be the cause, Windows Phone would be a massive success.

Don't let your fanboyism blind logical thinking.

Re:Android’s Commitment to Kotlin by pjmlp on Sunday December 08, 2019 @03:51AM (#21734977)
Windows Phone wasn't free beer for OEMs.
Re:Android’s Commitment to Kotlin by pjmlp on Saturday December 07, 2019 @08:28AM (#21730174)
On Android's case, free beer for OEMs above all.