Re:Urbit
by pron on Sunday December 01, 2019 @11:41AM
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Well, Yarvin's "model" is both very wrong (much more wrong than most models by actual scholars) and not useful; we know that because that "model" was once mainstream, and quite harmful.
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Re:Urbit
by NaggingGranpa on Sunday December 01, 2019 @11:46AM
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Harmful to whom?
To a far greater portion of human society than those it was perhaps useful for, if anyone.
Re:Urbit
by NaggingGranpa on Sunday December 01, 2019 @11:59AM
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Yet, it was the horrible, horrible Europe that Moldbug mythologizes and romanticizes that made virtually all advances in science and technology until a few decades ago.
Ancient Greece produced mechanical computers. Only recently did the great civilizations of China and India overcome Hellenic science & technology. Having Mandarins cataloging the Emperor's property is not a great use of human capital.
What? Non-sequitur much?
While the so-called European Miracle of the past 500 years is a fascinating and complex area of research that will undoubtedly be studied for generations and centuries to come, I wasn't aware that anyone considers modern (18th c. and beyond) romanticist ideology to be the major driving force of science and technology.
"Romanticist ideology" is a remarkably vague term, but I think one could make a case that something like it ended up being very much a factor. Of course, the reverse is also true; in the absence of 18th- and 19th-century science (including advancements in the social sciences, mostly coming from the "humanist" side as Carlyle knew quite well!) no "romanticist" ideology would even exist.
Re:Urbit
by Apocryphon on Monday December 02, 2019 @12:34PM
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That’s a... debatable assertion about the history of science in those places.