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Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by dbcurtis on Sunday December 01, 2019 @08:02AM (#21675269)
> which basically states that good conductors of electricity will also be proportionally good conductors of heat, which is why things like motors and appliances get so hot when you use them regularly.

NOOOOO!!!!!...... How can science reporting be so bad???

Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by MobileVet on Sunday December 01, 2019 @08:06AM (#21675283)
Because reporters aren’t scientists.

The article links directly to a page on the law so maybe a little grace could be given?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiedemann%E2%80%93Franz_law

Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by randyrand on Sunday December 01, 2019 @08:36AM (#21675412)
It is why they feel hot to human touch though :)
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by dwaltrip on Sunday December 01, 2019 @01:14PM (#21676863)
Educate us please?
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by dbcurtis on Sunday December 01, 2019 @02:13PM (#21677227)
Motors and appliances get hot because inefficiencies eventually become waste heat. That is the source of the heat. It propagates from tbe heat source to a surface you can feel through conduction and other mechanisms.
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by dwaltrip on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:55AM (#21690661)
Thanks!
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by blix on Sunday December 01, 2019 @02:10PM (#21677214)
Motors become hot because they generate heat through friction and other forms of loss. Many other appliances generate heat this way (and some are designed to generate heat).

Conductive materials are likely to be good heat conductors because the electrons themselves can conduct heat, and because the crystal structures of conventional metals (e.g. copper) tend to be good for both.

These two effects are entirely unrelated.

Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by dwaltrip on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:55AM (#21690665)
Thanks, that makes sense.
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by saagarjha on Sunday December 01, 2019 @01:51PM (#21677110)
The relationship is generally true for metals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiedemann–Franz_law) but an appliance being warm to the touch because you use it is not really related.
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by Ensorceled on Sunday December 01, 2019 @08:10AM (#21675311)
Making relatable analogies is hard.
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by zwsxedcrfvtgb on Sunday December 01, 2019 @10:19AM (#21675835)
but, if anything, the opposite is true. If I keep dumping a constant amount of heat onto a material it will get hot enough to cool itself.

So a piece of aluminum will be cooler than a piece of iron. The Al might transfer more heat to my fingers than the steel... or it might not (that depends on many more factors than just the conductivity).

Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by BubRoss on Sunday December 01, 2019 @08:54AM (#21675484)
That's not an analogy, it isn't explaining something in terms of something else.
Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by duckqlz on Sunday December 01, 2019 @09:02AM (#21675512)
Analogy : a comparison of one thing to another for the purpose of explanation.

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/analogy

Re:Physicists Have Identified a Metal That Conducts Electric... by coldtea on Sunday December 01, 2019 @09:24AM (#21675594)
That's exactly what your parent said.

Parent: "That's not an analogie, it isn't explaining something in terms of something else."

You: "Analogy : a comparison of one thing to another for the purpose of explanation."

Well, the parent says this isn't an analogy, as it's not "comparing one thing to another for the purpose of explanation".