Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by dnautics on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:56PM
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There are also instances of relatively peaceful people who got the prize and became warmongers, e.g. a certain president of the us, who sent 500 drone strikes into Libya in a single year after winning the prize (among other military adventures)
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by Tomte on Saturday November 30, 2019 @01:05PM
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How does that relate to the question in this sub thread?
Do you actually propose that they did violent things because they got the prize?
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by jtolmar on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:18PM
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If there are as many examples of people receiving the peace prize then going on to be warmongers as there are the reverse, it suggests that the peace prize isn't really doing anything here and we're just looking at the base rate of leaders switching between peaceful and warlike actions.
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by Tomte on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:31PM
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No, that's a fallacy, unless you can credibly argue for a causal link, i.e. because of the prize people feel they can get away with violence.
I find that not impossible to argue, but incredible, and would want to see supporting evidence.
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by baddox on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:33PM
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Yes, but that cuts both ways.
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by Tomte on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:36PM
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I only argue that there is a plausible mechanism, you argued in quantitative terms.
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by benjohnson on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:13PM
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The prize may have given them political cover that let their violence go on longer
Re:Disproved Discoveries That Won Nobel Prizes (2015)
by Tomte on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:33PM
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They only get the prize after stopping, so you're arguing for something more complicated: violence, then non-violence, then violence.
Possible, but not terribly plausible, IMO. And the examples proffered so far (Obama or Kissinger) certainly don't fit that pattern.
Whether the prize played a role in their decision is something only they can say (and then you might not believe them).
So I find this question useless, because it cannot be answered. The mechanism I sketched is generally plausible, though.