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Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by ddingus on Friday November 29, 2019 @11:43PM (#21668557)
I am going to let my .org return to the pool. I will miss having it, but I feel this move is adding zero value. Money grab, violation of net basics.

We are moving to a new, worse time. Have been for a while.

I do not want to reward that investment at all.

Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by Aperocky on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:33AM (#21668739)
Maybe with the abundance of TLDs .com/.org will eventually be reduced in importance and seen just as another TLD with a bit of special history.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by thaumasiotes on Saturday November 30, 2019 @01:08AM (#21668826)
As things stand now, .com is basically seen as just a mysterious string that ends URLs in much the same way that "http" begins URLs. It isn't viewed as having any more significance than that. "Just another TLD" is arguably a step up in importance from "invisible part of the background that nobody ever thinks about".
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by bscphil on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:06AM (#21668937)
> .com is basically seen as just a mysterious string that ends URLs in much the same way that "http" begins URLs.

This is 100% true. And yet, for the average person, it's viewed as the default mysterious string that ends a website's "name". Anything else is viewed as slightly questionable, although most people are aware of .org and .net as sometimes legitimate exceptions. I think most people would be less likely to enter their credit card information on a ".biz" domain, even though they couldn't express any accurate reason why that made it less trustworthy. That's significant, even if it makes no technological difference.

Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by eloisant on Saturday November 30, 2019 @05:50AM (#21669445)
Outside US, country tld are also very common.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by TeMPOraL on Saturday November 30, 2019 @07:38AM (#21669701)
The same heuristics apply. .<ccTLD> is roughly as trustworthy as .com is; .<class>.<ccTLD> is as trustworthy as .<tld>, where class=tld.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by bjornjaja on Saturday November 30, 2019 @08:07AM (#21669792)
I think the move to more specific domains is better and .org should be a relic of the past. For instance, consider:

people.org people.health people.art

The last two actually imply what they are about, but the .org could be anything.

Trust and faith in the service associated with a domain needs to be built with standard channels like word of mouth, advertising, good business practices, etc.

Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by Nullabillity on Saturday November 30, 2019 @10:18AM (#21670298)
To me an industry-specific TLD just says "We couldn't think of an original name."
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by thaumasiotes on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:05PM (#21671606)
While that's not inaccurate, I don't think it's a problem. It makes no sense to require everything to have a globally unique name.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by bjornjaja on Saturday November 30, 2019 @11:29AM (#21670606)
Hmm, yeah now that I think about it more I agree.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by bitslayer on Saturday November 30, 2019 @07:36AM (#21669696)
The traditional TLDs, especially .com, are immediately recognizable as www addresses. If you write some_name.com somewhere, just about anyone would know that they could type that into a browser. But some_name.club would not have that effect.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by WilliamEdward on Saturday November 30, 2019 @04:21AM (#21669239)
Wait, what? Give people more credit, a lot of people know it stands for the commercial domain name and understand the implications of that.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by geitir on Saturday November 30, 2019 @07:16AM (#21669640)
I was under the impression it had Soviet origins
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by julianlam on Saturday November 30, 2019 @10:17AM (#21670296)
Da, comrade.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by type0 on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:21PM (#21670985)
Net comrade, my soviet domain names are still valid [1] and free from this private equity capitalism nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su

Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by cdirkx on Saturday November 30, 2019 @06:51AM (#21669576)
A lot of English-speaking people, which isn't everyone.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by ddingus on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:06AM (#21668938)
I don't care about that happening with .com

I do care about that happening with .org

The .org matters. I would say these new owners don't get that, but I think they do, and think they have position to just rent seek, essentially trading on something that matters to just about the point where it doesn't so much.

Not going there. End game is .org no longer matters.

Fine. Might as well not contribute to the whole mess.

Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by nicky0 on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:56AM (#21669061)
Rather than pre-emptively throwing your toys out of the pram, why not wait and see whether Ethos proves to abuse their position or not.
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by drawkbox on Saturday November 30, 2019 @05:47AM (#21669441)
Ethos Capital (little bit too much like 'tethics') was formed in 2019 so nobody knows. Their headquarters is in Mauritius [1][2]. They could even be cool for a bit and then sell it to someone worse, though it isn't looking good as there was some insider finagling [3].

The problem is '.org' is in the private equity game now and when you go down that path, value is extracted and entities end up stripped of assets, loaded with debt and eventually stagnate. Private equity investment does not invest for community goodwill, it is a value extraction mission. Even if it is for investment, as much value or growth that can be extracted before it is available for investment is the modus operandi see Softbank with WeWork, Uber etc. You can see Ethos Capital goals and history where again creating returns and value extraction is the only goal. [4][5] Since it is a new entity there is very little ability to predict what this firm does or will do with their investment targets.

If this is the new game in TLDs then there could be some price collusion incoming, meaning more expensive for small/medium/institutions that are trying to compete or do public good.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritius

[2] https://ethoscapital.mu/contact/contact-us/

[3] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_s...

[4] https://ethoscapital.mu/what-we-do/advisor-ethos-private-equ...

[5] https://ethoscapital.mu/what-we-do/investment-strategy/

Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by metasj on Monday December 02, 2019 @08:11PM (#21688964)
That's the wrong Ethos Capital... you want ethoscapital.com !
Re:ISOC sold the .org registry to Ethos Capital for $1.1B by ddingus on Saturday November 30, 2019 @05:23AM (#21669384)
Just watch: "If we double it, the impact to any one domain will be near negligible..."

That will prove irresistible. Too easy.

And unnecessary.

Flat out, someone got pitched about an easy money machine, with strong second sale potential.

And it is, and will be too.

It is because .org was not supposed to be about these kinds of things.

Well, now it is. With no value added. Just rent seeking.

Maybe in the future much stronger legal means can prevent this kind of thing from happening.

I get it. The money is good.

It just will not come from me. Have seen this movie enough times to know how it ends now.

It is sad, and it sucks.