News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Django or Rails ? by far33d on Saturday May 12, 2007 @07:52PM (#21668)
I love python. I really enjoy programming in it. But then I went to my local bookstore and checked out the web section.

There's not a single django book. Or even a web related python book at all. But there's a whole section of Rails books. Now, that isn't to say that you need a book to write a rails/django app, it's just an example of all the energy and community behind rails.

It's got so much momentum. The same kind of momentum php once had.. It's only a matter of time before the tools get better and better because of it. Working in Django might be nice, but I really think it will be more like swimming upstream.

Re:Django or Rails ? by adrianh on Saturday May 12, 2007 @10:52PM (#21697)
Check out http://www.djangobook.com/ -- we're posting the book online, for free, as we write it. It will always be available for free online, and we're planning to continue improving it even after the print version is published. We're perfectionists. :)

Also see our docs, at http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/ .

Disclaimer: I'm a Django developer and coauthor of the book.

Re:Django or Rails ? by far33d on Sunday May 13, 2007 @03:34AM (#21731)
I was actually pretty impressed w/ the django book, even in its unfinished state. I also "get" django more than I get rails, so I'm definitely attracted to it (after quick looks at both).

My point was just that there's so much behind rails right now that it sure seems like any issues with it scaling will get worked out more quickly than they might with other frameworks. There's also already an ecosystem of 3rd party apps around it.

Re:Django or Rails ? by natrius on Saturday May 12, 2007 @08:42PM (#21678)
http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Django-Development-Done-Right/dp/1590597257

The book is coming in a month. One big reason why there aren't a lot of Django books out there is because instead of trying to make money off of books, they focused on writing high quality documentation to begin with. That book that's coming out is free online as well: http://www.djangobook.com/

The reason there are lots of Rails books is because there's a lot of hype around it. That doesn't necessarily mean the community is more supportive.

Re:Django or Rails ? by samueladam on Sunday May 13, 2007 @05:28AM (#21734)
Far33d,

You learn better by not buying a book and start coding.

As said before Django is very logical.

I read "Learn python in ten minutes" and just tried django.

http://www.poromenos.org/tutorials/python

As Adrian said, the online docs and books are very helpful and you can ask anything to the django users group :

http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/

You can also check out some code here :

http://www.djangosnippets.org/

http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/CookBook

Re:Django or Rails ? by far33d on Sunday May 13, 2007 @01:38PM (#21781)
Again my point was less about the usefulness of books and more about the number of books as a somewhat useful proxy for a measure of momentum and size of user community.