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Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by trentnix on Friday November 29, 2019 @06:53PM (#21667509)
I agree, I don't trust the US government either. But there is some irony that Mr. Freedom took significant efforts to assist a dictator who denies all of his subjects liberty and freedom (and usually in brutal fashion).

Good thing he didn't try to steal a propaganda poster while he was there.

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by sodosopa on Friday November 29, 2019 @07:23PM (#21667649)
> Good thing he didn’t try to steal a propaganda poster while he was there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Warmbier

Imagine what they do to their own citizens. Virgil Griffith apparently was ok doing business with a murderous dictator.

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by ShorsHammer on Friday November 29, 2019 @10:12PM (#21668283)
Find it hard to believe that this particular person actively wanted to help DPRK leaders rather than the North Korean people on the whole. These issues tend to get caught up with handwavey dismissals built from the slim amount of information handed out to us from news soundbites. If you or I wanted to interact with a North Korean today, how would we go about that? How would we trade with them or send a donation?

It's funny to see the difference in attitudes between how South Koreans view the north and how westerners view them. They are starkly different.

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by throwaway2048 on Friday November 29, 2019 @11:24PM (#21668503)
Its right here on the conference's webpage

"The interest of participants to continue building bridges of friendship and collaboration with the DPR of Korea, as well as the exclusive environment of confidentiality and contacts with the highest government officials and engineers"

What do you suppose that entails? Do you think in a state like North Korea is going to permit anyone North Korean except state officials into a conference like this, triply so with wording like that?

https://nkcryptocon.com/

We already know beyond a shadow of a doubt that North Korea is trading in crypto currency to fund their regime.

https://bitcoinist.com/un-north-korea-accumulating-cryptocur...

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/N-Korea-at-crossroads/Nort...

This conference had absolutely nothing to do with enabling regular North Koreans to access cryptocurrency, they don't even have access to the internet to begin with.

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by ShorsHammer on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:41AM (#21668761)
> Do you think in a state like North Korea is going to permit anyone North Korean except state officials into a conference like this

I wouldn't know, all I know about the country is from mainstream media.

> is trading in crypto currency to fund their regime

So why not do the same if that's our enemies are doing? Governments around the world are often some of the biggest wallet owners apart from exchanges due to confiscation.

> they don't even have access to the internet to begin with

NK Internet is weird, but non-nonexistent. How is one of the biggest nations on Earth who are implicated in hacking nearly everyone not connected to the internet? (do mean everyone, even their own friends) Are their hackers somehow not regular soldiers? Last I saw they aren't elites. Would be interested to hear some more wild allegations.

It's messy but for fucks sake please learn something from the last 70 years of the cold war and see where it ends up everytime.

People really need to step back and think about where these things lead. I would assert that the vast majority of North Koreans are good decent people. Do we really need another proxy war fought over ideologies?

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by nl on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:07AM (#21668941)
all I know about the country is from mainstream media

Well that's your fault for being uniformed.

There is plenty of non-mainstream media coverage, ranging from evangelical Christians[1] to those globalists at human rights watch[2] to not-for-profit groups[3][4] to more globalists at the UN[5], so you can pick you poison.

It's almost like there are actual facts, and your falling victim to the conspiricy-fueled anti-fact propaganda machine has blinded you to it.

[1] https://www.opendoorsuk.org/news/stories/north-korea-180103/

[2] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/north...

[3] https://www.c4reports.org/dispatched

[4] https://c4ads.org/about-us

[5] https://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/hrc/coidprk/pages/reportof...

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by throwaway2048 on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:48AM (#21668781)
Repeating again, this conference had nothing to do with enabling the vast majority of North Koreans to use cryptocoins, it is very evident, even from the materials of the conference itself.

The conference was about enabling the North Korean government to trade in cryptocurrency to evade sanctions, do you expect the American government to not take issue with that?

As for the North Korean internet, government elites get access to the global internet, but everyone else gets access to a tightly controlled intranet.

https://money.cnn.com/2014/12/22/technology/security/north-k...

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by pcwalton on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:56AM (#21668806)
> I wouldn't know, all I know about the country is from mainstream media.

It's not just "mainstream media" reporting that North Korea is a totalitarian regime. It's a universally-acknowledged fact.

Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by CryptoPunk on Saturday November 30, 2019 @03:48AM (#21669161)
We shouldn't use totalitarian means, to fight a totalitarian regime. If transacting freely without centralized intermediaries helps a rogue totalitarian regime like NK, that doesn't mean we should support powerful states like the US government imposing a totalitarian ban on such peer-to-peer transaction mechanisms.
Re:Arrest Of U.S. Citizen For Assisting North Korea In Evadi... by newguy1234 on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:55AM (#21668804)
Yeah, I agree. It is ironic. Why help a government? Help people gain liberty and freedom from oppression.