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Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g... by rayiner on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:10AM (#21654744)
> That's basically the maximalist interpretation and that's not the one US law works under at all.

It’s not a “maximalist” interpretation. With nearly any other federal right, we’d agree that maintaining a registry of people exercising that right would impermissibly create a chilling effect. You can be a member of a minority religion, but only if you place yourself on a registry! You can exercise freedom of speech or assembly, but only if you put yourself on a registry. It’s not maximalist, it’s giving an enumerated constitutional right a full and fair reading.[1]

I do agree that the existing precedent in the area has been impoverished. The Supreme Court has important work to do correcting that.

[1] The framers were gun nuts and would have been troubled by the decline of gun ownership. The idea that you have a civic duty to own firearms would be closer to the original intent than the idea that the government can limit gun ownership to formal militias.

> Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops. – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g... by mantap on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:26AM (#21654804)
Surely putting a person on a registry and putting a gun on a registry are different things? A gun is physical object, it has a location that is independent of its owner's location. The US doesn't keep a registry of people with minority religions but it does keep registries of religious buildings where people congregate.
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g... by rayiner on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:36AM (#21654845)
Gun registry proposals universally require recording the gun’s owner: https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/gun-own...

The US doesn’t keep registries of religious buildings either. There’s obviously titles and whatnot for buildings. But it would likely be deemed a constitutional violation to require registration of every place that would be used to hold religious services. Some in Germany have proposed a “mosque registry”: https://www.dw.com/en/german-politician-wants-islam-law-and-....

Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g... by Reelin on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:42AM (#21654878)
I believe religious buildings in the US are only registered due to tax status? I'm under no obligation to register my house if I start holding congregations here.

A much more accurate analogy might be a registry for religious paraphernalia (crosses, rosaries, etc), including information about the purchaser. Such items are tied to an individual, and thus serve as a very effective proxy.