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Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @11:12AM (#21639530)
OP here, we believe that the time has come to let remote workers and highly agile teams get stuff done together in a very different and much more natural way. CoScreen is a remote collaboration tool that enables exactly that.

Problem: Pretty much anyone who has ever worked remotely knows it - today’s remote collaboration solutions provide much better screensharing quality and reliability (thanks, Zoom) compared to a few years ago. But it takes the same frustrating steps to connect and to pick windows again and again, only one user can share screens and remote control at a time, users have to ask for permissions to interact, etc.

Solution: By turning your secondary display into your team desktop, CoScreen enables you to share your windows with your peers in a single, natural interaction step by drag & drop. Any windows you drag to your extended screen are shared with your peers. They can share their windows in the same way, on the same desktop, side-by-side, at the same time. Each team member has an own mouse pointer and can interact with all windows without having to request controls. It also works great if you only have one screen and you can also chat with each other via audio.

CoScreen launched on Product Upcoming with a private beta a few months ago with over 300 sign-ups and early testers from small startups to large tech companies. Since today it is in public beta and you can use it for free by going to coscreen.co.

We can’t wait to hear what you think as it’s still an early beta version and while it’s still rough around the edges. Till & the CoScreen team

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by thawkins on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @07:21PM (#21644141)
I gave up in fustration, the site has no real information, no system requirements, no installation information. does it run on linux? I like the idea but i have a department with 100 fedora workstations in it.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @09:23PM (#21644763)
Btw, we've just set up this form to get quick feedback which operating system we should support next - please help us prioritize! https://shorturl.at/koJX3
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @07:33PM (#21644225)
Thanks as well, it's macOS-only for but we're working on other OSes. It should work on anything that runs macOS Mojave and higher and at least on 5-6 year old Mac Books.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by greggman2 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @09:41AM (#21648178)
I'm curious how many Mac users have multiple monitors? I don't think I've ever seen a single one (I'm sure they exist). I see iMac users on one big monitor. I see MacBook/Air/Pro users either on their laptop or one monitor, usually with their laptop closed.

Where as pretty much all Windows users in game dev seem to have 2 or more monitors.

Are you expecting lots of mac users to buy a second monitor or use an iPad for this second monitor or is my experience just atypical and lots of mac users have 2 monitors?

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by mistersquid on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @09:51AM (#21648262)
Professional Mac user here.

Over the last decade, I’ve worked in shops supporting Macs (as well as other OSes) along with other Mac-using developers and designers.

All my Mac-using colleagues have dual-or-higher monitor setups.

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:13PM (#21654521)
Thanks both. In corporate environments we've seen more software developers who have a Mac with multiple screens (often one of them vertical for code) than with just one. But we were unable to find any reliable stats and it's an ongoing debate in how far multiple screens (vs. just hire resolutions/more pixels on one screen actually improve performance - see https://lifehacker.com/is-the-multiple-monitor-productivity-....

In any case, CoScreen also works great with just one screen and you can share/unshare with a single tap of a button.

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by snowe2010 on Thursday November 28, 2019 @07:30PM (#21661076)
Every person in my company uses a Mac (~100 people) and I think only one person uses only one monitor. Every employee gets a 34in LG and a laptop stand and every person (except the one) uses the laptop open to the side for extra stuff. I know at least two employees have several external monitors. One of them has two 34in and a thunderbolt display (which is ridiculous to me, so much head movement).
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:17PM (#21670962)
Thanks a lot for the helpful data point!
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by mean_gene_1976 on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @07:27PM (#21644179)
I am feeling the same way mate. I believe it’s only for macOS.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @07:32PM (#21644211)
Thanks for your feedback, sorry if that wasn't clear. We'll fix our website. It's indeed macOS-only for now (we had to start somewhere). Here all steps to get started: https://support.coscreen.co/portal/kb/articles/getting-start...
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by mean_gene_1976 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @08:03PM (#21653811)
Naw mate. Your good. I read the site in English and it said clearly macOS. No need to apologize. I was just trying to be nice. Site was cool. Maybe more documentation. Good luck to you.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:13PM (#21654522)
Thanks a lot!
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by skue on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:05PM (#21640171)
Congrats on the launch. This looks like one of those great ideas that works so much better than the old way that it feels obvious in hindsight.

I’m curious how you handle different monitor resolutions?

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:19PM (#21640342)
Thanks a lot for the kind words! Great question, CoScreen shows shared windows based on their relative positions and sizes. So they appear in the same way for all participants. If there are huge difference between resolutions, the users will see either very small/large fonts but we still concluded after many prototypes that this is the best tradeoff. Feedback welcome nevertheless...
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by lima on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @02:36PM (#21641807)
So what you're saying is, you don't handle different monitor resolutions.

My team is split between people with 4k or even 5k screens and wide-angle screens with lower pixel densities, so this would be an issue. Not sure how common that is, though.

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @02:51PM (#21641985)
Sorry for the misunderstanding - We do handle the translation of resolutions to create the same layout for everyone. In addition, you can actually pinch zoom into remote windows if necessary.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by lima on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @03:13AM (#21646149)
Got it. Awesome!
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @09:36PM (#21644815)
UPDATE 1: Thanks so, so much for the huge interest & valuable feedback, please keep it coming!

Here's a quick form for the many folks interested in Windows & Linux support, please help us prioritize: https://shorturl.at/koJX3

UPDATE 2: As mentioned further below, we're also on Product Hunt today - check it out (and let's beat the boring marketing apps): https://www.producthunt.com/posts/coscreen

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @01:26AM (#21645739)
UPDATE 3: The OS survey link doesn't seem to work on some platforms, please use use the full link: https://teamcoscreen.typeform.com/to/IOJ8ql
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by fragmede on Thursday November 28, 2019 @07:00PM (#21660971)
MPX, multi-pointers on X11/Linux systems was amazing, back when it first came out around 2005, and definitely seemed like the future of collaboration. I'm glad that someone's making a go at productizing the concept and building a company around using it for collaboration. it gets me sad to see cool tech languish add research projects because of barriers, whatever they may be, to have a sellable product. Some make it though; Ksplice is one such product that had a successful company and exit that I can think of.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by fimdomeio on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:13PM (#21640276)
Seems like a great idea. One question is visual data only shared among peers or does it pass through your servers?
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:17PM (#21640312)
Thanks! It goes through a central server so it can make it through corporate firewalls. This adds latency unfortunately but makes it more reliable for folks behind strange proxies and scales better for >2 users. But in any case, we'll enable P2P connections shortly so it won't go through the server if it doesn't have to, stay tuned. Sign up on our website and we'll let you know once it's out.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by JoshTriplett on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @01:08PM (#21640899)
If you haven't already, you might consider adding end-to-end encryption, which will make people more comfortable with it going through your servers in the cases where it still needs to.

Also, I'd assume you use video compression; keep in mind that encrypted video still reveals some information through sizes, especially if you have some idea of the kinds of applications users typically use.

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @02:20PM (#21641627)
Absolutely, it's already end to end encrypted but good point on metadata...
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by texasbigdata on Thursday November 28, 2019 @04:40PM (#21660357)
Not even remote. As a nontech worker its unbelievably helpful in a shared office too.

I used to have a big screen tv and 2 keyboards and wireless mice at a coffee table in my office for just this problem, and a crazy (for normal humans) hdmi splitting setup that allowed for a byod of sorts.

Great idea!

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:52PM (#21671185)
Agreed!
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by em-bee on Friday November 29, 2019 @11:46AM (#21665331)
i'd like to use this in a classroom setting where either every participant, or the moderator/teacher can see all shared windows but decide to feature only one or two of them.

one way to do that would be the ability to minimize shared windows.

the teacher (or anyone with moderator privileges) would be allowed to minimize windows, but also have a way to look at windows while minimized (as a teacher i want to see what everyone is doing on their own windows, while at the same time get the students to focus on a particular window.)

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Saturday November 30, 2019 @12:51PM (#21671181)
Great idea, we're already looking into educational use cases. Feel free to reach out directly if you want to discuss this further.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by tmikaeld on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @11:44AM (#21639934)
How are you different from Vectera.com which does the same thing, but with persistent rooms too?
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:22PM (#21640371)
Thanks for your question! Afaik Vectera runs in your browser and focuses on sharing what's in it. CoScreen lives on OS-level so you can share and interact with any native window, browser or not. They also don't seem to support multiple users sharing windows at the same time side-by-side but please let us know if we're missing anything.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by trpc on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @11:22AM (#21639660)
How much does it take to pay a hunter on PH in order to be featured these days? asking for a friend.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by orliesaurus on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:04PM (#21640165)
I think the go to rate was $5k, this is maybe 6 months ago. It was a friend who told me after they asked a famous ex-Uber employee to hunt them
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by coscreen on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:24PM (#21640398)
Would love to know that as well ;) Our hunter had signed up to our private beta launched via Product Hunt Upcoming and that's how we got connected.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by trpc on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @12:11PM (#21640238)
That's why I have never found a single useful product on ProductHunt for years now. It has become an absolute farce that it should be illegal.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by halfjoking on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @06:33PM (#21643840)
I was just thinking how much PH has turned to shit lately when I saw this in #2 spot today:

https://www.producthunt.com/posts/linkbuildr-for-wordpress

Really? A Wordpress "Linkbuildr" that automates spamming emails when you write posts? And nothing but praise in the comments? PH has become a joke and we definitely need some ethical competition in the product discovery space.

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by datashaman on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @09:50PM (#21644863)
I used AlternativeTo to find alternatives to product hunt, and it came up as the top suggestion:

https://alternativeto.net/software/alternativeto/ https://alternativeto.net/software/product-hunt/

Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by egfx on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @11:22PM (#21645227)
Couldn’t agree more. Yesterday I was browsing the top product of the day to see what future competition was like and the product was a color swatch that gave you similar colors for inspiration. It looked like they mashed together a codepen with a color swatch api I’ve starred but I won’t even bother linking to here. It’s sad for sure.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by omarchowdhury on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @01:58AM (#21645876)
Could it be that there aren't that many exciting new products coming out? Or is that blasphemy?
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by TomMarius on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:14AM (#21647221)
But there are a lot of new exciting products.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by omarchowdhury on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:43AM (#21649416)
Where do you usually come across them?
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by TomMarius on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @06:57PM (#21653405)
Hacker News, lately, because I don't come anywhere else. I'd say I find a good product every 5 days.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by egfx on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:27AM (#21654808)
I sometimes use https://10words.io sign up for their newsletter for 5 products per email.
Re:Show HN: Coscreen.co – a radically different remote colla... by ksahin on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @05:46AM (#21646832)
What do you mean? You can hunt your own product on PH now!