Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw...
by ClumsyPilot on Sunday November 24, 2019 @10:22AM
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Don't we have other forms of surveillance, installing of cameras/microphones in people's homes and sting operations that could help catch people?
I think that demanding citizens incriminate themselves is an especially lazy form of justice.
Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw...
by jonstewart on Sunday November 24, 2019 @03:05PM
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I don’t think such techniques are readily and cheaply available to most police departments.
Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw...
by vunie on Sunday November 24, 2019 @09:20PM
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That's a good thing. It forces the police to actually do their homework rather than invade people's privacy whenever they want.
Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw...
by nickpsecurity on Sunday November 24, 2019 @10:29AM
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Schneier et. al.'s Keys Under Dormats paper tackles that problem from many angles. You might find it interesting.
https://www.schneier.com/academic/paperfiles/paper-keys-unde...
Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw...
by appleflaxen on Sunday November 24, 2019 @01:50PM
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> How is justice served if these networks can’t be rolled up due to full disk encryption
they can be. it just takes more law enforcement effort. they want their jobs to be as easy as possible, even at the expense of civil liberty.
Re:Suspect can’t be compelled to reveal “64-character” passw...
by jonstewart on Sunday November 24, 2019 @03:04PM
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I’ve worked with a lot of LEOs who handle these cases. I’m not sure I’d characterize them as wanting things to be as easy as possible even at the expense of civil liberty.
How do you prove possession of CP if all the data is on encrypted drives? What sort of additional effort do you think is necessary?
My geek half that believes in strong 4th and 5th Amendment tights and crypto thinks this is a fine decision. My forensics half bets this guy has gigabytes of atrocious child pornography on his system and that CP cases are the motivating factor for the police wanting to decrypt your hard drive in 99 out of 100 cases with a search warrant.
These cases are not abstractions; every pic is of a child who was abused and the perpetrators organize themselves into networks that include distributors and abusers/“content producers.” How is justice served if these networks can’t be rolled up due to full disk encryption?
I like encryption. I don’t want to be compelled to give up my password to a tyrannical government. But I think the tech community is quick to take an absolutist view of the right to strong crypto, and quick to discount that harm can happen as a result. I also don’t think that view is shared by most people... so it seems like a problem worth solving.