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Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by ChuckNorris89 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @04:00PM (#21616513)
Where I live(Germany), the business who only need 2 developers already have them. All the job ads are only from big/medium companies and it's not worth working for the medium sized ones as you have all the downside of the big corps with none of the perks.
Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by smnscu on Saturday November 23, 2019 @06:26PM (#21617314)
I agree, actually. It's so hard to find a good job that doesn't pay like crap in Germany (I used to live in Cologne and Berlin). Try contracting with UK companies if you can find a remote gig, my QoL went significantly up after I stopped working with German companies.
Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by kayoone on Sunday November 24, 2019 @06:08AM (#21619660)
define "pay like crap". My experience in Berlin is different, depending on your experience 60-90K EUR is possible. Combined with the relatively low cost of living in Berlin, you can live comfortably. I don't see London paying significantly more, while being a lot more expensive.
Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by smnscu on Sunday November 24, 2019 @04:37PM (#21623609)
That's exactly what I meant by that. I've been in a few companies and I don't think the compensation structure for SWEs is fair for most of the German market. I do agree that Berlin is still fairly cheap.
Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by cerberusss on Sunday November 24, 2019 @02:44AM (#21619016)
Do you realize that you have taken on a defeatist conviction? People give you tips and you tell them it's impossible.

The facts however, are that these tips work for the people giving them.

Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by kortilla on Saturday November 23, 2019 @08:57PM (#21617874)
> Where I live(Germany), the business who only need 2 developers already have them.

No new businesses get created in Germany and no people retire? Sounds like a bleak place.

Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by leeoniya on Saturday November 23, 2019 @04:11PM (#21616579)
> business who only need 2 developers already have them

it takes time, but you have to search continuously. people leave and get replaced all the time.

Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by gnrl on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:28PM (#21617052)
Well job ads are already the wrong approach. Go meet your local business in meetups, social gatherings, etc.
Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by ChuckNorris89 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:31PM (#21617064)
This is a medium sized EU city, not SV. There are no tech meetups here. Those may be a thing in big metro areas.
Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by Aeolun on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:58PM (#21617181)
Start a tech meetup? That’s hard, but it’s also incredibly good for your visibility.

Even a medium size EU city should have a critical mass of developers by now.

Of course, it would be nicer if we just had decent employers in the first place.

Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by lowercased on Saturday November 23, 2019 @10:22PM (#21618132)
agreed. I was visiting Bucharest last November and was surprised that there were multiple tech meetups on meetup.com. Perhaps I shouldn't have been, but ... I was just... pleasantly surprised. I wasn't there for work, but found a couple evenings where I ended up having the night to myself and stumbled on the idea of checking my meetup app and... bam - multiple places to go meet up with tech folks. More than I had time for actually...

Bucharest is capital, not 'just' an EU city, but it's by no means the largest nor would I think it has the most tech folks compared to other areas. (maybe that's wrong assumption though?)

Re:An 84-year-old Japanese app developer by mantas on Sunday November 24, 2019 @05:44AM (#21619572)
Healthy ecosystem exists even in rather small cities. Up here in Vilnius, Lithuania, small-sized backwater EU city, we've quite a few meetups with a decent amount of networking opportunities. Sure it's not as SV scale. But even < 1million metro area can sustain that.