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Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by notahacker on Saturday November 23, 2019 @07:47AM (#21613846)
There's a much more obvious difference between now and 100 years ago: 100 years ago the education and financial support for scientific research was largely a closed shop for European-descended upper middle class men. There are certainly many geniuses obsessively researching into areas that stimulate their intellectual interest today that wouldn't have had the opportunity to do so back then.

I'm not sure being a scientist was that unfashionable 100 years ago anyway: research labs were a thing, academic work was arguably more prestigious than it is today, fortunes were being made from inventions especially in fields where there were low hanging fruit, competitions and societies and exhibitions to celebrate scientific achievement had come into existence and the idea of inventiveness was even tied up in popular contemporaneous notions of national and racial superiority. There might be more subfields and more research to build on nowadays, but the stereotype of scientists being underpaid eccentrics certainly hasn't gone away and nor has the fact a mathematics prodigy can make a lot more money working in financial services than academic research.

I'm also unconvinced scientific progress has slowed because today's geniuses are working on interpreting our genetic code, modelling solutions to climate change and solving scaling problems in computation rather than drawing taxonomy diagrams, inventing new types of consumer electronics and breaking the land speed record.

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by zozbot234 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @07:54AM (#21613862)
> 100 years ago the education and financial support for scientific invention was largely a closed shop for European-descended upper middle class men.

i.e. exactly the people who were, by far, most likely to be living a comfortable, stress-free life back then. We should not underestimate the sheer amount of material progress and economic growth that has occurred since then. A lot more people can have the luxury of getting playfully obsessed about something than could back then.

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by sillysaurusx on Saturday November 23, 2019 @08:26AM (#21613987)
800 karma in 73 days. I wonder what the highest karma gain in two months was, in HN’s history. (From comments only, and with the top comment removed from consideration to avoid one-offs.)

I guess I’m a bus ticket collector of HN facts.

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by mrep on Saturday November 23, 2019 @08:54AM (#21614107)
tptacek has 323873 since november 2007 [0] or an average of 2,249 per month so probably quite a bit higher.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tptacek

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by sillysaurusx on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:11AM (#21614181)
I probably should have specified “besides tptacek.” He’s a fascinating outlier. He once claimed he was worried some Russians were going to harm him due to his HN comments. I still wonder if he was just saying that to sound cool, but truth is often strange.

That average does put things into perspective though.

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by tptacek on Saturday November 23, 2019 @11:19AM (#21614820)
I said what? If this was in person, I'm confident I was both drunk and joking.
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Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by dang on Saturday November 23, 2019 @02:28PM (#21615955)
Hey, please don't swerve into personal attack here. Friendly banter needn't turn ugly.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by Jamwinner on Saturday November 23, 2019 @10:33AM (#21614601)
How did you read 'hate' into that? Genuinely curious.

As an aside, I recently feel at odds with the language many people are using. The mere word 'hate' seems to have grown weird political connotations, while is suddenly okay to hate 'hate'. Is this not fostering the very emotion you revile, under twisted pretense? I remember 'love thy enemy' to have been the twist of the knife in peaceful protest, not sinking to their level with 'justified hate'. It feels hollow. If we want a change, we need to reach out first. /rant

Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by account73466 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @12:02PM (#21615054)
There is a trend to demonize the Chinese and Russians governments (it is always about governments but then it translates to companies and then to people). This trend is very useful to promote different kinds of online censorship and put people into political boxes (e.g., you like this then you are that). Basically, when every single piece of material about a country is negative, you get a set of feeling where hate is not the least common. Then you go full paranoia cycle and expect that these same people also will punish you for what you write about them. One can benefit from these tendencies and ride them to get attention and respect of like-minded people, basically sell hate.
Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by saagarjha on Sunday November 24, 2019 @12:40PM (#21621934)
I’ve consistently gained karma faster than that. By my estimate, there’s still a handful of people who are currently accumulating karma even faster than I am (one of whom has been mentioned here), though I expect to only really be sure in a year or so.
Re:The Bus Ticket Theory of Genius by fuzzfactor on Saturday November 23, 2019 @10:04AM (#21614441)
I would say:

100 years ago the education and financial support for scientific research by European-descended upper middle class men

was a thing.

50 years ago I wasn't expecting it to come back, it wouldn't have helped me anyway, overall scientific opportunities were far worse by then and the trend has continued. I wasn't waiting around for an uptick, I just started right away putting in the effort to try and compensate.

And I agree with this completely:

>There are certainly many geniuses obsessively researching into areas that stimulate their intellectual interest today that wouldn't have had the opportunity to do so back then.

There is so much brilliance in so many cultures through so many millennia, it can be seen that education and financial support are not even essential for genius, mainly for documenting, recognizing, and leveraging the influence of a very very small percentage of geniuses through history, only those few whose works were preserved and/or applied.

Surviving largely within a system of lesser thinkers whose works were better preserved and/or more stongly applied.

Which is why I think

>inventing new types of consumer electronics

can be a good thing if the consumer is given careful enough consideration.