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Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by The_rationalist on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:45AM (#21603921)
Facts: On average rust is 10% slower on the banchmarkgame: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...

But they use llvm instead of gcc for c++, and gcc is in average 20% faster than clang. Therefore, rust is 30% slower, at least on heavily optimised programs.

And hyper is not the fastest http server, but the actix one is one of the fastest yes.

Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by steveklabnik on Friday November 22, 2019 @08:58AM (#21605557)
> Facts: On average rust is 10% slower on the banchmarkgame

That does not show it's 10% slower on average; it shows that C++ is 0.9917938291x as fast as Rust. They both have some where they win by 30%, most are closer, Rust is just faster on average.

> But they use llvm instead of gcc for c++,

C++ g++ g++ (Ubuntu 9.2.1-9ubuntu2) 9.2.1 20191008

?

> gcc is in average 20% faster than clang.

Extremely citation needed.

Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by igouy on Friday November 22, 2019 @10:40AM (#21606521)
> faster on average

What kind-of time measurements? What kind-of average?

This chart shows some time measurements:

https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...

:and the geometric mean is faster for the C++ programs, but the median seems faster for the rust programs.

Statistical artifacts?

Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by steveklabnik on Friday November 22, 2019 @10:52AM (#21606659)
> What kind-of time measurements? What kind-of average?

I interpreted the parent to mean a simple average, so I did exactly that: calculated the percentage for each, and averaged them. In the colloquial term, "mean".

Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by igouy on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:46AM (#21649453)
typo ? "the colloquial term" is "average", the specific term is "mean".
Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by The_rationalist on Friday November 22, 2019 @06:16PM (#21611132)
Geometric mean is the implicit default measurement for benchmarking
Re:Clang Format Tanks Performance by igouy on Friday November 22, 2019 @10:23AM (#21606313)
> On average rust is 10% slower on the banchmarkgame

If that claim was true …

> gcc is in average 20% faster than clang

and if that claim was true …

then we might guess the rust programs average could be 10% faster than the C++ programs average, if both used the same compiler backend

— because those rust programs were compiled with llvm but those c++ programs were compiled with gcc.