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Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by stickfigure on Thursday November 21, 2019 @01:49PM (#21597838)
Events like this are the modern moral equivalent of the giant, gaudy, gilt-encrusted palaces of the 17th century.

I think this vastly overstates it. Versailles cost some significant fraction of France's GDP - possibly as much as 25% in some years. WeWork's $10B is a mere drop in the US' $20T GDP.

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by rchaud on Thursday November 21, 2019 @02:37PM (#21598505)
WeWork is just one part of it, however. Uber is another Ponzi scheme, living on underpriced rides and multi-billion losses for as long as their bond rating holds up.
Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by eternalny1 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @03:53PM (#21599467)
Uber isn'ta Ponzi scheme.

I use Uber all the time, as does everyone I know. Hell, I even drove for them for a while.

They provide a needed service and they are subsidizing that to get rid of competition like Lyft and to grow a huge user base. Then, it's likely they will raise prices and start making money.

But it is not a Ponzi scheme. Last I checked, a local taxi company that is still in business wants $30 to take me into town, which is 5 miles away. Uber is $7.

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by rchaud on Thursday November 21, 2019 @04:53PM (#21600107)
> But it is not a Ponzi scheme. Last I checked, a local taxi company that is still in business wants $30 to take me into town, which is 5 miles away. Uber is $7.

The cost of that $7 are the billions they lose every quarter. It's not sustainable. They're a public company now, so to come up with fresh cash, they have to issue bonds and pay interest on them. How will they repay it when they aren't generating fresh cash through profits? They can't rely on VCs opening their wallets whenever they needed money.

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by eternalny1 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @10:16PM (#21602129)
> The cost of that $7 are the billions they lose every quarter. It's not sustainable.

They will raise prices eventually, they are in the "get a lot of regular users" phase still, growing that until they are ubiquitous.

Yes, they may face monopoly concerns then, but that is down the road.

What they will not face is competition from the $30 taxi companies, because unlike the taxi company they do not own any cars and the resultant costs of that.

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by sanysany on Thursday November 21, 2019 @07:59PM (#21601475)
I believe the plan is to increase prices.

Cheap rides are to gain marketshare and customer acquisition. Not saying the strategy will be fruitful but it is a strategy.

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by notus on Thursday November 21, 2019 @08:34PM (#21601678)
That's a terrible plan considering any one of their competitors could not raise their own prices and now be a preferred choice to Uber.
Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by dclowd9901 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @03:02PM (#21598867)
And what's their profit exit? The ever-innovative and dubious "forcing people to watch fucking ads while they ride around."
Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by p1esk on Thursday November 21, 2019 @02:05PM (#21598065)
Not to mention Versailles was built with taxpayers money.
Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by gwbas1c on Thursday November 21, 2019 @03:23PM (#21599128)
It's not as straightforward with VC money. VCs have to answer to investors.

(Hopefully someone more knowledgable can chime in,) but I always thought VC was a mix of government, private, and institutional funds?

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by munificent on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:58PM (#21608097)
I think there's an argument that taxpayers are indirectly funding all of this.

If you assume that the government needs $X to perform its function then when tax rates are cut for corporations and those wealthy enough to game the system, its everyone else whose taxes pay the shortfall. The reason there is so much money floating around the top end is specifically because they've figured out how to foist their tax burden onto others.

Re:WeWork lays off 2,400 employees by baud147258 on Friday November 22, 2019 @09:21AM (#21605741)
I don't know where you're getting this idea. At its highest, it was less than 5% of total State spending.