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Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by newscracker on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @10:28AM (#21584720)
So Chrome doesn’t support the API that uBlock Origin could use to block such ads whereas Firefox does (with the user’s permission). [1] One more reason why Chrome will soon be seen as mostly useless for users of ad blocking extensions. Hope Firefox keeps alive the things that make uBlock Origin a necessity for a decent browsing experience.

[1]: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/780#iss...

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by pythux on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @11:35AM (#21585377)
Once Manifestv3 is rolled-out, Chrome will not support uBlock Origin at all.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by arthurfm on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @01:53PM (#21587113)
The developer of Nano Adblocker (which is a fork of uBlock Origin) may continue working on a manifest v3 compatible adblocking extension for Chromium-based browsers.

https://github.com/NanoAdblocker/NanoCore/issues/238

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by jackdh on Thursday November 21, 2019 @09:15AM (#21594164)
I look it up but I can't see a clear answer of why?
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by newscracker on Thursday November 21, 2019 @10:53AM (#21595367)
Manifest V3 doesn’t allow requests to be intercepted and modified by extensions, which is something uBlock Origin requires to block ads and elements on a page.

The proposed way for content blocking in Manifest V3 is how Safari on iOS implemented it a few years ago — a declarative list of URLs to be blocked is provided by the extension and the browser engine looks that up and blocks them. The extension doesn’t see the actual page URLs or requests, leave alone block them.

This is a positive for privacy since the browsing behavior of the user is not exposed to malicious extensions. But uBlock Origin is not some-random-extension-that-wants-to-steal-information. Treating uBlock Origin like any other extension isn’t good. Since Google makes money by selling ads, there will likely not be any concessions on this front.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by dannyw on Saturday November 30, 2019 @08:30PM (#21673218)
Manifest v3 still allows browser extensions to observe web requests. It just stops web extensions from blocking them.

There is no win for privacy here.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by burtonator on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @06:13PM (#21589648)
Is anyone working on keeping this functionality within chromium directly, or a fork? Seems like it would be a good way to push back on this.

Try to use Youtube without an ad blocker. It's insane.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by dijit on Thursday November 21, 2019 @07:29AM (#21593419)
I've been using qutebrowser (which has a very barebones ad-blocker) for some time. So I can confirm that Youtube is awful without an adblocker;

It's very common to see: "Ad 1 of 2", the first of which is unskippable, the second of which needs 5 seconds to be skipped (if it's skippable at all). Then you get the content which is almost always sponsored and opens with an ad of its own "this video sponsored by squarespace" etc;

A deluge of marketing, and somehow "not profitable". I don't get it.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by tnorthcutt on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @12:47PM (#21586298)
I switched to Firefox recently, partly because of this issue. I used it for 2-3 months, but eventually went back to Chrome because of poor performance; Firefox frequently lagged on typing input, hung, etc. in situations where Chrome does not. I hope things improve.

Caveat: I was using Firefox Developer Edition... I wonder if "normal" FF would be better.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by Fiveplus on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @01:09PM (#21586566)
The stable release of Firefox hasn't lagged or given me any troubles. Neither on my work PC nor on my personal 5 year old laptop with mere 4 Gigs of RAM and no SSD.

Disclaimer : I use about 6 privacy focused addons in total.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by idonotknowwhy on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:54PM (#21590404)
Which addons? I'm currently using Vimium-FF and Ublock Origin.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by chopin on Thursday November 21, 2019 @06:15AM (#21593068)
PrivacyBadger, Ublock Origin, UMatrix and lately Toggle Resist Fingerprinting.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by sk5t on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @11:50PM (#21591544)
Not OP but EFF's Privacy Badger is pretty great.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by newscracker on Thursday November 21, 2019 @10:55AM (#21595386)
Privacy Possum is a better fork of Privacy Badger.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by endemic on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @04:34PM (#21588802)
It would be great if you could capture a performance profile: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Performance...
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by Justsignedup on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @02:02PM (#21587216)
Been on FF for a year now. I can say I like it better than chrome. And use it on mobile.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by mcdevilkiller on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @02:06PM (#21587268)
I use Developer Edition on an 8 y/o PC and it doesn't lag. Even with 500 tabs open (using a tab suspender.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by ben_jones on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @06:41PM (#21589863)
I wonder if this is just because developers aren't testing or using firefox frequently enough to catch such bugs? I maintain several internal web apps for my current company and am guilty of this, all our users use chrome, all our developers use chrome, so our app unintentionally works best in chrome.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by computermagic on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @02:47PM (#21587698)
You should try normal cause I have never seen these on the normal release version.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by WizardAustralis on Thursday November 21, 2019 @03:03AM (#21592244)
It really depends on your browsing habits I have found, essentially how many tabs you have going at once.

I tend to be very frugal in my use of tabs, maybe 30 at any one time and even then very briefly and I don't have any issues.

To put this in perspective, I'm on a Librebooted T400 machine, so 4GB RAM on a Core 2 Duo and it FF hasn't been a major issue at all. Everyone's mileage may vary.

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by jonahhorowitz on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @04:57PM (#21589014)
I've been running Firefox Nightly for 2 years now and it's consistently as fast as Chrome. I keep Chrome open only so I can access gmail. Everything else is in FF.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by thiht on Thursday November 21, 2019 @07:07AM (#21593301)
> I keep Chrome open only so I can access gmail

Why? Doesn't it work with Firefox?

Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by boring_twenties on Thursday November 21, 2019 @02:20PM (#21598279)
It seems to be a little slower, but not (for me at least) by enough to make it worthwhile to run a whole second browser.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by scrumbledober on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:24PM (#21589262)
Is there any way to use firefox with chrome dev tools? I can't bother using a different browser for personal use and work use and can't imagine using anything else for work.
Re:uBlock Origin: Address first-party tracker blocking by rhizome on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:33PM (#21589344)
What does Chrome Devtools have that Firefox's doesn't?