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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by solipsism on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:38AM (#21573186)
Either there's a rule of law or there's not. You can't hide from the police and then claim that the very act of hiding is an act of torture enacted on you by the police.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by k1m on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:42AM (#21573245)
You're assuming he had a lot of choice in the matter and that the UN didn't take that into account. Nils Melzer when asked about it responded: "Mr. Assange was about as free to leave as someone sitting on a rubber boat in a shark pool." - https://twitter.com/NilsMelzer/status/1134400849097220102

Also, as far as I'm aware, Assange didn't claim he was tortured, the UN experts on torture came to that conclusion.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by klagermkii on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:14AM (#21573633)
The "rule of law" isn't about individual citizens submitting to the system.

It's about the people in power following a standardised process based on the crime that was supposedly committed, and being applied uniformly, vs the "rule of man" where things are handled on an adhoc manner based on who's in power and who's being charged.

The system can be breaching the "rule of law", not the individuals targeted by that system.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by solipsism on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:02AM (#21574356)
I didn't claim Assange was breaching the rule of law. Part of the rule of law is that individuals are accountable for their actions. A court of law is usually the correct way to determine accountability. The state is obligated to protect individuals (in this case the women who were allegedly raped) via the justice system.

The idea that having to flee charges is tantamount to being tortured implies the state does not have that right. If there is to be the rule of law, the state has not only the right but the obligation.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by raxxorrax on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:43AM (#21573253)
The rule of law is followed to the letter by state actors as everyone knows...
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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by authoritarian on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:14AM (#21574530)
Throughout history it's been very clearly demonstrated that laws are not always just and impartial. I'd even go so far as to argue that there has never been a time in history where all laws were just and impartial. Having a difference of opinion doesn't automatically make the other person a troll, and acting like that's the case doesn't lead to productive discourse
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by lucozade on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:00AM (#21573450)
Please don't.

Assange jumped bail after a multi stage judicial process on charges of rape and sexual molestation.

Ms Frank was hiding to avoid genocidal extermination by an occupying force during war.

They're not equivalent.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by authoritarian on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:05AM (#21573501)
I didn't say they were equivalent. OP said that there's rule of law, and that if you are hiding from the police you can't claim that having to hide is an act of torture, which is obviously not always the case