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Re:Calm Before the Storm by tempguy9999 on Friday November 15, 2019 @04:34AM (#21543548)
This is exactly why I am against nuclear power, not because it is in any way bad but because it gets treated with not much more sophistication than a chimp would given matches.

Nuclear power is of fabulous value, but the way it gets turned into a potential liability is what puts me off it. It seems to be the way the human race approaches anything; with the shortest term view.

The merit of any tool is in wielding it wisely.

Re:Calm Before the Storm by brazzy on Friday November 15, 2019 @05:10AM (#21543707)
Yup, the problem with nuclear is not the safety of the technology as such, the problem is the combination of two things:

* People's greed, stupidity and laziness means that in practice, there is no such thing as a safe technology.

* A nuclear reactor is pretty much the only thing where a local fuckup can have globally disastrous consequences

Re:Calm Before the Storm by emsign on Friday November 15, 2019 @06:16AM (#21543969)
Or you could say nuclear power isn't for humankind, at least not in their current irresponsible state.
Re:Calm Before the Storm by dsfyu404ed on Friday November 15, 2019 @07:41AM (#21544312)
>* A nuclear reactor is pretty much the only thing where a local fuckup can have globally disastrous consequences

Hydro-electric wants you to hold its beer.

Over the timeline that civilian nuclear has existed dams going pop has killed a lot more people and caused more destruction than nuclear. The fact that the consequences are "global" is mostly a reflection of how good we are at measuring radiation. While (for example) Chernobyl going pop was detectable over much of Europe the actual amount of radiation was of basically no consequence (i.e. less than more local sources of air pollution) except in the immediate vicinity.

Re:Calm Before the Storm by H8crilA on Friday November 15, 2019 @07:08AM (#21544177)
> * A nuclear reactor is pretty much the only thing where a local fuckup can have globally disastrous consequences

As opposed to a distributed fuckup that has >95% probability of failure.

Re:Calm Before the Storm by tempguy9999 on Friday November 15, 2019 @07:14AM (#21544199)
There is 100% failure probability for everything
Re:Calm Before the Storm by H8crilA on Friday November 15, 2019 @09:53AM (#21545256)
Yes, correct :)

I meant within next 100 years or so. On a predefined time horizon.

Re:Calm Before the Storm by tempguy9999 on Friday November 15, 2019 @01:25PM (#21547326)
It's unclear what high probabliity, distributed fuckup you're talking about. Climate change? In that case I'm entirely with you but that's a result of the same short-termism I mentioned.

I am horribly certain we've painted ourselves into a corner.

Re:Calm Before the Storm by H8crilA on Friday November 15, 2019 @05:31PM (#21549440)
Climate change, yes.