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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by taneq on Monday November 11, 2019 @10:10PM (#21511219)
I'd offer a third option: Early stages of a product.

The hyper-productive antisocial back room whiz kid is perfect for an R&D role. They can launch off solo and come back a few weeks later with a working prototype to prove the viability of a new product line. Then, before they get bored and stop being productive, you send them off on another deep space mission to invent something else.

All the while, you have a team of less flashy but more dependable and cooperative engineers taking the prototypes and building sustainable systems and marketable products out of them.

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by throwaway35784 on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @01:13AM (#21511910)
I need that role. In a week I turn out what takes a team several months and many times they've already spent that many trying to show any visible progress.

I've done the impossible since I was in college. Still am. I'm resented by peers. Feared by less competent managers. I can't be controlled.

I have a deep sense of integrity. I refuse to compromise my morals. I will not be forced to implement anything I believe could be used for unethical purposes. I won't bury the truth.

I won't keep my mouth shut if blame is cast inappropriately. I will not see people thrown under the bus. I work too hard. I'm an over achiever. Others start to believe they are looking bad by comparison. I'm held back by them.

I work all night. I get 'er done. I care. I listen. I empathize. I'm hated.

I'm not a team player because I am able to do all the jobs but focus what I do best. I'll help you do your job better but I won't do it for you.

I won't tolerate lies. I have high standards for myself and my team. I won't fall in line.

People assume I'm arrogant but I always under promise and over deliver.

I'm lost.

There is no place for me.

I'm alone.

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by PedroBatista on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:24AM (#21513013)
You need to grow up. It’s hurting and will hurt like hell, but it’s the only way. You are not your work, you got that illusion and higher sense of self because you knew that’s the only thing you have to offer, now you’re starting to realize it’s a dead end.

Time to let go.

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by akie on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:20AM (#21512456)
Honestly, it sounds you're both brilliant and a bit lacking in people skills at the same time. Most people are decent and try to do the right thing, so if they do something questionable it's usually because there's another (not-questionable/good) thing that they're trying to achieve. Try to objectively understand people's reasons for doing things before you reach a conclusion about their behavior, it will go a long way in making you feel less alone.
Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by taneq on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @01:14AM (#21511916)
Sounds like you need to start your own company where you can call the shots and surround yourself with like-minded people.
Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by fragmede on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @04:49AM (#21512866)
It must hurt to feel so lost and alone. I'm sure what you wrote is an honest description of how you feel, but it's highly biased. Impossible for it not to be, mind you. Without talking to your peers, or watching you interact with them, it's impossible to say if it's actually your IQ that they resent you for, or if there's something else going on. For instance, if EQ is low (compensation for high IQ), then you may not even be able to see hurtful actions that you've taken towards them for which they resent you, rather than jealousy of your brilliance.

(btw might look into Aspergers/ASD)

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by fouc on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @08:49AM (#21514028)
There's a bunch of contradictions in this post, and honestly it seems like a troll/joke post.

You're conflating lies/truth, empathy/hate, peers/team, productivity, etc all together, it's bananas.

But the basic gist is that it sounds like you're not suitable for larger companies at all. You should limit yourself to companies smaller than 50 people.

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by goto11 on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @02:51AM (#21512312)
Look for consulting work or start you own business. If you are difficult and not a team player, you are going to have a hard time in teams regardless of your ninja rockstar abilities. But there are plenty of opportunities for a sole developers where you might thrive.
Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by trandana on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @09:03AM (#21514116)
Have you tried coming down off your high horse in the rarified stratosphere and acted like a normal and humble human being? Because you are either on a team of retards or you have an unhealthy ego.
Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by swfsql on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @07:20PM (#21519768)
In some degree, I believe everyone is in that same boat. But I think it is unusual to mix your 'morals' with your work. This indicates that you like discussing random stuff with people at work.

I mean, avoiding allocating memory unnecessarily is not related to moral nor ethics.

And you know.. just because you have a moral opinion doesn't mean you MUST point out divergence with others, when they pronounce their world view. I really find it unusual to point out "morals" in a topic like this one.

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by calgoo on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @08:56AM (#21514065)
This reminds me of a manifesto, like the hackers manifesto that showed up years ago. Maybe we can call it the Overachiever Engineer manifesto?
Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by say_it_as_it_is on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:19AM (#21512995)
Go see a therapist.