Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Schedule'

Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by nradov on Monday November 11, 2019 @11:49AM (#21506316)

I think it was Mark Cuban who made the point that a mature, professional team can handle having one "Dennis Rodman". But it can only be one, and management has to be clear that they're making an explicit exception which isn't open to others. The rest of the team might find this a bit unfair, but usually they'll tolerate it as long as results are good and they're treated well in other ways.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by harryh on Monday November 11, 2019 @02:23PM (#21507948)

It was Phil Jackson (Rodman's coach at the time):

"Of course not. There is only room for one Dennis Rodman on this team. In fact, you really can only have a very few Dennis Rodmans in society as a whole; otherwise, we would degenerate into anarchy."

Similarly, John Madden on Terrell Owens:

"If you hold the bus for everyone on the team, then you’ll be so late that you’ll miss the game, so you can’t do that. The bus must leave on time. However, sometimes you’ll have a player that’s so good that you hold the bus for him, but only him."

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by nradov on Monday November 11, 2019 @02:30PM (#21508029)

Thanks for the correction, that's what I was thinking of but apparently it wasn't Mark Cuban.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by heelix on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:44PM (#21510457)

I just shake my head at the idea Rodman likely deserves a Nobel peace prize for the work done with North Korea. (and he likely does) Of all the people in the world to guess... he would not be the one I expected to do something significant outside of sports.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by ReptileMan on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:01AM (#21512364)

NK still has nukes so no. On the other hand he cannot possibly deserve it less than Obama or the EU, so ...

Obama got the peace prize before even entering office and EU is a study in dysfunction ...

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by cyborgx7 on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @06:12AM (#21513223)

And if NK know what is good for them, they will keep their nukes. The US will flatten them as soon as they get rid of their nukes.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by remotecool on Monday November 11, 2019 @01:26PM (#21507318)

I think the problem is that every quirky developer thinks they're the Dennis Rodman of their team and it's probably not the case.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by Aeolun on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:24PM (#21510349)

They could do without me if they tried. There’s at least one member that could pick up the slack (and code quality might actually improve a bit).

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by burnte on Monday November 11, 2019 @11:57AM (#21506390)

This, exactly. we try too hard to make one rule to fit everyone but not everyone fits every rule. It's ok to use judgment and say "this person gets this other treatment for these valid reason."

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by nefitty on Monday November 11, 2019 @12:20PM (#21506618)

I had always assumed that these sorts of exceptions can become HR liabilities, especially when the person getting special treatment shares the same title as other peers.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by jdc on Monday November 11, 2019 @12:34PM (#21506752)

Could you be more specific? Why not give the high-performing prima donna a small promotion?

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by rzzzt on Monday November 11, 2019 @04:17PM (#21509008)

It's a question of finding a great sounding, but ultimately meaningless title to add to the company ladder.

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Re:Makers, Don't Let Yourself Be Forced into the 'Manager Sc... by Aeolun on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:26PM (#21510360)

Junior Architect

Senior Architect

Legendary Architect

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