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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by whoevercares on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:49AM (#21504399)
That’s why there’s SRE and on calls. Well in those big event, there likely will be a war room with hundreds of on-calls checking in either remotely or onsite. There could be an “oncall leader” as well or Speical OP team. Bad days for oncalls.

Honestly SDEs from google are quite lucky since they got SREs to back them. Elsewhere it might go to the dev team directly

EDIT: if you know any big company pays oncalls more, let me know and I’ll seriously consider join!

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by Havoc on Monday November 11, 2019 @05:03PM (#21509374)
Netflix should do a docu about it. I'd watch it
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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by neuronic on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:54AM (#21504427)
> Bad days for oncalls

It sounds snarky, but it's honestly very hard to have sympathy with people who earn what these oncalls earn.

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by whoevercares on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:56AM (#21504440)
Hmm which ones of FAANG pays oncall extra? At least not A.

Oncall normally means common Engineer who’s on oncall rotation. You can reimburse the dinner I think at least

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by sethvargo on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:18AM (#21504574)
Google pays on-call engineers extra. Other companies often pay ENOCs in time off. I know a few only compensate IF you’re paged off-hours (e.g. paged at 3am, incident resolves at 6am, you get 3 hours of vacation time).
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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by abeppu on Monday November 11, 2019 @12:01PM (#21506428)
> I know a few only compensate IF you’re paged off-hours

Yeah, that seems like it would lead to misaligned incentives (as well as under-price the opportunity costs of being on-call).

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by tazjin on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:04AM (#21504489)
Google compensates for on-call outside of normal business hours.

(I'm a Googler)

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by whoevercares on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:08AM (#21504512)
Not too surprised but still Google treats their people pretty damn good
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