Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages

Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by neuronic on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:54AM (#21504427)

> Bad days for oncalls

It sounds snarky, but it's honestly very hard to have sympathy with people who earn what these oncalls earn.

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by whoevercares on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:56AM (#21504440)

Hmm which ones of FAANG pays oncall extra? At least not A.

Oncall normally means common Engineer who’s on oncall rotation. You can reimburse the dinner I think at least

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by sethvargo on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:18AM (#21504574)

Google pays on-call engineers extra. Other companies often pay ENOCs in time off. I know a few only compensate IF you’re paged off-hours (e.g. paged at 3am, incident resolves at 6am, you get 3 hours of vacation time).

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by abeppu on Monday November 11, 2019 @12:01PM (#21506428)

> I know a few only compensate IF you’re paged off-hours

Yeah, that seems like it would lead to misaligned incentives (as well as under-price the opportunity costs of being on-call).

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by tazjin on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:04AM (#21504489)

Google compensates for on-call outside of normal business hours.

(I'm a Googler)

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Re:Google App Engine and Cloud Datastore Outages by whoevercares on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:08AM (#21504512)

Not too surprised but still Google treats their people pretty damn good

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