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Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by andy_ppp on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:03AM (#21473764)
I'm tempted to be very very sarcastic here but instead I'll just say clearly I'm not able to move the whole of 3000 person organisation onto a better stack because convincing people they would get no features for 3-6 months would be impossible.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by FpUser on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:18AM (#21473920)
Cant vouch for every situation but I think in general it actually pretty much achievable using slow attrition. From what I've observer while consulting corporate systems are collections of hundreds components. Start with one with clearly defined functionality and slowly chip away. Does not prevent from delivering new features.

The only thing here is that it will introduce certain overhead and has to be carefully managed. Also one has to make sure if it has measurable ROI.

Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by andy_ppp on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:34AM (#21474080)
Okay, fine. I will try for Elixir, Phoenix Live View and as little JS as possible and see how we go.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by FpUser on Thursday November 07, 2019 @11:29AM (#21474629)
I am not sure if Elixir is performance beast. But then again I do not know much about it other than it runs on VM.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by nobleach on Thursday November 07, 2019 @01:22PM (#21475777)
I wouldn't call Elixir/Phoenix a "top performer" in the league of Java/Vert.x or Rust/Actix (see TechEmpower benchmarks) but it does VERY well at chugging along and not falling to pieces. Its dev experience is really nice. Its missing type-safety, but, honestly, I quite enjoy messing with it.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by andy_ppp on Thursday November 07, 2019 @11:54AM (#21474871)
Everyone thinks Elixir is slow until they use it and then realise throughput is often more important than absolute performance.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by FpUser on Thursday November 07, 2019 @12:44PM (#21475347)
As I said I do not know much about Elixir so yo be the judge. I do however have doubts about throughput of well designed code running on VM being faster then that of native. My understanding is that on Erlang VM this throughput is achieved by using async and message passing patterns backed up by thread pools inside. All perfectly available for "low level" languages as well.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by andy_ppp on Friday November 08, 2019 @01:00AM (#21480265)
I understand, my preference is Elixir but while fast enough and scalable, it is a memory and cpu hog.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by ianai on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:26AM (#21473983)
That’s possibly a trend from the places I’ve worked. The larger he organization the better the odds there are little niches of few users using specific software and website services. From around. 2x-5x GP’s size.
Re:AMD Q4:16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core ... by ianai on Thursday November 07, 2019 @10:07AM (#21473808)
Corporate America, am I right?

But this is a safe place for us devs.