Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outside of a crosswalk

Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by Piskvorrr on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @10:36AM (#21463544)

Soooo...it's now okay to run over people (5 seconds is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON-crash! time), as long as you have an excuse? Go watch the scapecam footage: even with the horrible picture quality, you can see the victim walking (in a straight line across the road, no less!) a very long time before impact.

Perhaps you could also argue "if she were wearing a helmet, it would have conferred +1 to CON and perhaps saved her", for what it's worth - makes sense in the crudest of simulations, but not in RL.

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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by umvi on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:05AM (#21463865)

Of course not! It's never okay to kill people. But she is at least partially to blame for her own death. If I take a nap on some train tracks and get run over, is my death 100% on the train engineer for not stopping even though I was in plain sight for 30+ seconds?

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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by ulisesrmzroche on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:53AM (#21464359)

That’s not even close to jaywalking. Bad example

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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by Piskvorrr on Thursday November 07, 2019 @06:15AM (#21472197)

You are taking this into ridiculous extremes. She wasn't taking a nap in the road, and a car is stoppable at a far smaller distance than a train. Your argument boils down to "it's her own fault for existing outside a car, shit happens."

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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by SamReidHughes on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @02:26PM (#21466102)

When I jaywalk (or cross anywhere) I consider it my responsibility to cross safely. If I got hit by a car, it is 100% my fault for not looking. Maybe it is also 100% the driver's fault. Responsibility and blame is not something that has to get divided up such that it adds to 100%.

In this case the pedestrian and driver are both fully responsible. The pedestrian was lollygagging across the road like a complete idiot. The driver wasn't paying attention.

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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by wutbrodo on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @04:45PM (#21467768)

> Responsibility and blame is not something that has to get divided up such that it adds to 100%.

I think I might agree with something you're trying to say, but this point is completely incoherent.

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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by SamReidHughes on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:20PM (#21468176)

I'm not saying responsibility + blame > 100%, if that's what you think I said. Read it as two statements: "Responsibility is not something...," and "Blame is not something..."

If doesn't clear things up, I don't know how it could be incoherent.

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