Re:Programmers can’t write algorithms without help
by stanski on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:30PM
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A few years ago I had a case where I had told the company what salary I'm expecting. Then I had two in-person interviews and one phone conversation with an additional department in the company that I would be working with.
After that, they offered me something like $10k less than what I had asked for and minimum vacation, saying that when you add in the value of all additional benefits (health insurance, rrsp benefits), you end up at the salary I had originally requested. Did not exactly win me over.
Re:Programmers can’t write algorithms without help
by mamcx on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:44PM
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Sad. But at least because you state your rate, you can see how much them lowered. I have lost customer after them say their own prices after I estimate a lot more (that is based in decades of experience, in the same market).
When the counter-offer is TOO BAD you can say, 100% sure, the experience moving forward will be VERY BAD. I'm not in a market where programming is well paid, and this is the most certain sign the customer will not pay on time, or even at all..
Re:Programmers can’t write algorithms without help
by jagged-chisel on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:44PM
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You counter with $15k over and keeping the benefits ...
In the other side, I always pitch "We do this or that, this is what we need help for, and this is how much we can pay (or: how much is your rate?)".
Is an amazing filter. Specially when you don't have much cash to give. Because: If I can't pay... why lost more time? And if I can pay and the other accept it.. only need to solve if is capable.
This is also for my customers. I put a money estimate as soon as possible, or ask upfront what is the budget range.
Is an amazing filter. Because: If I the customer can't pay... why lost more time? And if can pay I only need to solve why I'm a good fit.
The less hidden variables the better for all...