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Re:Programmers can’t write algorithms without help by stanski on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:30PM (#21443965)
A few years ago I had a case where I had told the company what salary I'm expecting. Then I had two in-person interviews and one phone conversation with an additional department in the company that I would be working with.

After that, they offered me something like $10k less than what I had asked for and minimum vacation, saying that when you add in the value of all additional benefits (health insurance, rrsp benefits), you end up at the salary I had originally requested. Did not exactly win me over.

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Re:Programmers can’t write algorithms without help by mamcx on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:44PM (#21444126)
Sad. But at least because you state your rate, you can see how much them lowered. I have lost customer after them say their own prices after I estimate a lot more (that is based in decades of experience, in the same market).

When the counter-offer is TOO BAD you can say, 100% sure, the experience moving forward will be VERY BAD. I'm not in a market where programming is well paid, and this is the most certain sign the customer will not pay on time, or even at all..

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Re:Programmers can’t write algorithms without help by jagged-chisel on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:44PM (#21444132)
You counter with $15k over and keeping the benefits ...
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