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Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by publicrootkey on Monday November 04, 2019 @04:34AM (#21440099)
From my understanding, the high valuation of Saudi Aramco does not seem to stem from them being the best in to industry for processing oil, but rather, from their access to the richest and cheapest source of oil. This license is their source of making huge profits - i.e. the difference between the cost price versus the market price.

To the best of my understanding, Saudi Aramco has no ownership of the oil fields but merely manages them on behalf of KSA. So is there anything impeding KSA from simply selling oil field access to someone else than Saudi Aramco after the IPO, and in effect, eliminating Saudi Aramco's source of profits?

Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by reallymental on Monday November 04, 2019 @04:40AM (#21440124)
Why would you sell your goose that lays golden eggs?

Even if you think that the goose might be getting older and less fertile, it doesn't make sense.

It only makes sense if you know when the goose is gonna run out of eggs. And in this case I'm not sure anyone knows.

Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by awakeasleep on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:00AM (#21440220)
You missed the point.

The goose is the land. The eggs are the oil.

The eggs roll into a basket where people can buy them.

The basket is saudi aramco.

Now that the basket has been sold, why not make a new basket and send over some eggies?

Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by aembleton on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:08AM (#21440262)
Because only 1-2% of it is being sold. The Saudi state will still own 98% of the shares.
Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by tuberelay on Monday November 04, 2019 @02:46PM (#21445645)
With a small float and Saudi state owning the other 98% it means that high price can be maintained with little inflow, but global passive equity investors are mandated (I think?) to hold a big chunk of this overpriced equity due to the huge market cap. Anyone know if that is correct?
Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by currere on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @01:59PM (#21455467)
According to [1] you can have float-adjusted or market-cap weighted indices.

> An example of a company in which float-adjustment comes into play is Amazon (AMZN). The online retail giant's overall market cap is estimated at around $130 billion. However, only about two thirds of its shares are publicly traded. The non-publicly traded shares, controlled by insiders such as founder and CEO Jeff Bezos, would not be included when determining a company's weight in a float-adjusted index. Incidentally, a company's full market cap, including both its float and non-float shares, is used to determine whether it belongs in the index.

So it depends on the index.

[1] https://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/news/124023/understanding-p...

Re:Saudi Aramco: The message from the world’s biggest and wi... by thaumasiotes on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:03AM (#21440236)
> Why would you sell your goose that lays golden eggs?

> Even if you think that the goose might be getting older and less fertile, it doesn't make sense.

Well, if the goose is currently valued at the net present value of the original income stream, it does make sense to sell if its income stream is going to falter. That's a simple case of selling something for more money than it's worth.