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Re:The Money Farmers: How Oligarchs and Populists Milk the E.U. by ChuckNorris89 on Sunday November 03, 2019 @02:46PM (#21436100)
1000x this. I live in Austria right now and most start-ups here are funded with EU or Government grants.

That's really nice but the problem is most of them are designed to suck up as much of that free no-strings-attached grant money as possible rather than build a successful product.

Re:The Money Farmers: How Oligarchs and Populists Milk the E.U. by flosstop on Sunday November 03, 2019 @05:41PM (#21437249)
No just startups, there are established companies who take enough of their revenue from involvement in EU sponsored projects that it effectively become the sole purpose of their business. I've been involved in a few of these projects (for a fairly legitimate firm) but you encounter the same companies over and over again.

One of the goals of these projects is often to do an initial development phase and then bring in a new tranche of companies to trial/expand what you have developed. There are groups of companies that have developed a symbiotic relationship where one of them gets into a particular project and then pulls in their fellows in the subsequent round. It is also common to see them tendering to diverse projects in the hope that one of them gets accepted and they all then pile into it.

The formal review meetings that I have attended have been extremely uncomfortable because I know that the people are on stage flat out lying about what they have achieved. Generally all they have done is some token development so provide a few screenshots for a presentation and then talk about how it has revolutionised their business whilst pocketing the vast majority of the cash.

Re:The Money Farmers: How Oligarchs and Populists Milk the E.U. by izacus on Sunday November 03, 2019 @04:49PM (#21436892)
Do you have any source on this "most startup" thing? Because my experience in Vienna did not fit that bill and I wonder if you have actual numbers you've checked.
Re:The Money Farmers: How Oligarchs and Populists Milk the E.U. by devnulloverflow on Sunday November 03, 2019 @06:20PM (#21437467)
> grant money as possible rather than build a successful product.

You are not thinking the right way. Machinery for writing good grant applications is a successful product.

This is why research universities are such great training grounds.

Re:The Money Farmers: How Oligarchs and Populists Milk the E.U. by fit2rule on Sunday November 03, 2019 @02:53PM (#21436140)
Austrian start-up are a total scam. They're designed to milk those fat subsidies and do little else. It doesn't matter if you get 200,000 on your first application, 150,000 on the next .. you're not working to establish a product and build a market and add value to it - you're working to keep the grant writers happy.
Re:The Money Farmers: How Oligarchs and Populists Milk the E.U. by megablast on Sunday November 03, 2019 @06:09PM (#21437417)
> That's really nice but the problem is most of them are designed to suck up as much of that free no-strings-attached grant money as possible

How could you possible know that? Clearly you are making this up.