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Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by crdoconnor on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:06PM (#21410258)
Somewhat ironic since we were told in no uncertain terms that automation would cause the exact opposite to happen.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by pjc50 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:13PM (#21410339)
"Service" roles have been put in a weird state where, because they involve relating to humans, they're difficult to automate. But because they involve doing what you're told, with low room for autonomy and creativity, they're low-status and therefore low paid.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by BurningFrog on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:22PM (#21410461)
> they're low-status and therefore low paid.

Pretty sure it's mostly the other way: They're low status because they're low paid.

Jobs are low paid when there is a big supply of people who can and want to do them. Which is pretty much equivalent to the jobs being low skilled.

Since everyone can flip a burger, you don't have to pay much to find someone to do it.

Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by lotsofpulp on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:29PM (#21410573)
Additionally, the demand may not be sufficient to support higher wages. Even if no one is willing to flip a burger for less than $50 per hour, who is willing to pay for a burger flipped by someone earning $50 per hour?
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by CydeWeys on Thursday October 31, 2019 @07:46PM (#21414981)
And yet people are totally willing to contribute to servers earning much more than $50/hr in tips (on busy nights). $50/hr spread across a lot of customers works out to not actually being that much per customer.

Admittedly this is relatively expensive sit-down restaurant service we're talking about here, which is different from the fast food market.

Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by crdoconnor on Thursday October 31, 2019 @02:23PM (#21411969)
You typically have to pay a lot more if public sector jobs and wages aren't being cut.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by cannonedhamster on Thursday October 31, 2019 @04:25PM (#21413346)
It would be trivial to replace servers, but there's an initial cost investment most restaurants can't afford. The obvious transition is those screens you see popping up everywhere. It's going to be the next step are conveyer belts that deliver the food to your table. Industrial automation already exists for this. Need to send it back open the receptacle click the screen to say what's wrong and your order will come back correct.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by rmrm on Thursday October 31, 2019 @06:04PM (#21414221)
Except you would need to remodel every exusting restaraunt to have conveyer belts behind false walls. This isnt the next step, it will not happen. Walk up windows for ordering and numbers are already increasing. That is the next step for reducing server numbers.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by edoo on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:17PM (#21410384)
Capitalism sees most the productivity gains to the workers. I think our experiment has failed and it is time to try capitalism again. Our country hasn't seen it for over 100 years.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by tmaly on Friday November 01, 2019 @10:01AM (#21418878)
I think you mean laissez faire capitalism
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by Frost1x on Thursday October 31, 2019 @02:10PM (#21411836)
That sounds like communist socialist facist nazi etc. propaganda to me...

...at least that's the knee-jerk defense you hear from the priests of our current system (most mislead or benefiting from the corruption). If you don't support our current broken form of capitalism, you're labeled a blasphemer.

Heaven forbid we, as a society, re-evaluate the functionality of something adopted hundreds of years ago and adapt/change it without offering an impossibly proven successful alternative. Because, you know, the current economic system we have was proven successful before it was adopted.

It won't necessarily be trivial or painless but it will be less painful than it will at a later date, unless we want to pass the burden down to future generations.

Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by edoo on Thursday October 31, 2019 @02:33PM (#21412086)
Since they instituted the communist economic system that makes it impossible to save capital by draining the purchasing power of the currency at an exponential rate the working class has been on a steep downhill decline. I think it is pretty obvious at this point the experiment has failed.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by perl4ever on Thursday October 31, 2019 @08:10PM (#21415104)
I'm sure this will convince nobody of anything, but inflation in the US in July was 1.8% (annualized) in July, and a Vanguard money market fund was yielding 1.9% recently.

What more can you ask, whether you're ranting in favor of or against socialism? Risk free returns maintain your purchasing power, while at the same time, you get essentially nothing for taking no risk with capital. This seems exactly how it should work in a perfect system...doesn't it?

Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by lotsofpulp on Friday November 01, 2019 @09:31AM (#21418548)
I know all the academic work that goes into calculating inflation, but it’s never tracked to my comings and goings in a very high COL area. My health insurance premiums alone just increased 10%, not even counting the increases in deductible, copay, and oop max.
Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by perl4ever on Friday November 01, 2019 @07:03PM (#21424623)
I was just reading a news article that claimed ACA premiums are down like 4%. Then again, now that I have an employer-provided plan (since about 5 months ago) (that appears to be worse than the ACA option) it's going up noticeably for 2020.

The smallest reform to the healthcare system that I think would be substantially beneficial, is just to let ACA plans compete for employed people on an equal basis. It's unreasonable that once you have a job then you have to pay way more for a marketplace plan. I'm nowhere near my deductible for the forseeable future, but certain office visits doubled in price just because I have a job with a temp agency that provides shitty insurance that effectively disqualifies me for an ACA plan.

Re:Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment by tmaly on Friday November 01, 2019 @10:03AM (#21418915)
There are serious consequences to calculating inflation.

If the published number spikes, so does the COL adjustments for social security. This would easily put the government underwater.