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Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by newsbinator on Thursday October 31, 2019 @01:49AM (#21406064)
What is the currently accepted answer to the question, "what is gravity"?
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by timonoko on Thursday October 31, 2019 @02:58AM (#21406309)
It is an illusion. You are floating freely in the space, but massive mass near-by is causing curvature in space-time. In other words: Time goes more slowly in your shoes, because they are closer to the mass. This causes any movement to be circular movement, which is pressing you to the near-by mass, which you experience as "gravity".
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by majke on Thursday October 31, 2019 @06:01AM (#21407129)
Wow, what an excellent way of phrasing it. Give me more. Why "any movement is circular"?
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by Firadeoclus on Thursday October 31, 2019 @07:37AM (#21407625)
It seems to me that, as soon as there is mass in the universe which curves space-time, all paths of movement are closed. To a first approximation, for anything close to a single large mass that means an elliptical path.

That assumes, of course, that an instantaneous "path of movement" is something that is even worth considering, given that it ignores the time dimension and the fact that all those other objects aren't remaining in a static configuration around the object whose path we are considering.

Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by TeMPOraL on Thursday October 31, 2019 @08:44AM (#21408104)
I would think that parabolic trajectories only close in infinity, and hyperbolic not even there? Or both close only in infinity? The math on that is currently out of my brain's cache.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by rbanffy on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:03PM (#21412404)
They all close. Worst case is they'll get longer and longer as the universe expands and the objects will never be able to complete them and come back for a second lap.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by narag on Thursday October 31, 2019 @01:57AM (#21406085)
Einstein believed gravity isn't really a force in the same sense as the other three fundamental forces, but a property of space-time. That seems to be a problem because it causes some kind of "incompatibilty" with the others. Trying to reconcile those, efforts has been made to create quantum gravity theories, that view space itself as quantized and in this direction you find strings and quantum loop gravity.

Disclaimer: I'm no expert, just parroting what I found in Wikipedia.

Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by gpderetta on Thursday October 31, 2019 @04:58AM (#21406847)
IANAP either but as far as I understand the incompatibility is not on wether gravity is a force or not (that's just a way to interpret the equations). The issue is that all attempts to quantize gravity have failed so far (due to the specific mathematical properties of the gravitational field) and QFT would require gravity to be quantized to interact with other quantum fields.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by dvh on Thursday October 31, 2019 @01:55AM (#21406081)
Gravity is one of the essential forces in nature. If you want to explain it in simpler terms it is not possible because gravity is the simpler thing. You can use gravity to explain other things, but you cannot use other things to explain gravity.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by pmorais on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:42AM (#21406486)
That’s not really true. The other 3 “fundamental” forces are irreducible yet still entirely explained by the standard model.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by gpderetta on Thursday October 31, 2019 @05:02AM (#21406863)
Well, gravity is similarly explained by general relativity.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by ThemalSpan on Thursday October 31, 2019 @03:00AM (#21406316)
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by NeedMoreTea on Thursday October 31, 2019 @02:53AM (#21406279)
The dent in the rubber sheet that the earth currently sits on - hence the whole curvature in spacetime thing. As far as I know no one has figured out or found gravitons yet, so it's just a theory.

Which I assume means there should be a few gravity-deniers out there to give themselves a break from global heating denial. :)

Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by ralusek on Thursday October 31, 2019 @01:53AM (#21406078)
That which maketh the apple bonk the skull most uninvitedly.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by polynomial on Thursday October 31, 2019 @08:09AM (#21407819)
Apple bonkers?
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by tus88 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @01:52AM (#21406076)
Curvature in spacetime.
Re:Military Has Been Researching "Anti-Gravity" For Nearly 7... by Grimm665 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @09:17AM (#21408348)
This video by Vsauce really put it in a way that made it stick for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc4xYacTu-E