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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by agloeregrets on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:59AM (#21385743)
Part of this is that AMD is using TSMC’s ‘7nm’ process, which is comparable to intel’s delayed 10nm. Development of that process was funded by Apple (as they use it for the A12/A13). So the pairing of AMD and Apple can out spend and out develop intel.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by thechao on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @07:27AM (#21385918)
My brother has a bankrupt after market motorbike company; that company—combined with Apple—can outspend Intel.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by phatfish on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @08:13AM (#21386232)
Is this really true? It seems very unlike Apple to let another company profit from their funding. Surely TCSM already had the tech and they are just licensing it to both AMD and Apple?
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by wongarsu on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @09:23AM (#21386801)
It's developed by TSMC, but you can argue that they developed it primarily to offer it to Apple. In that sense you can say Apple paid for it, just by singlehandedly making the investment worth it.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by agloeregrets on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @09:42AM (#21387018)
Exactly. Apple said “if you do X we will pay Y” in that sense, Apple put the money up to cover development costs.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by gameswithgo on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @09:37AM (#21386955)
apple has TMSC build their chips. amd has TMSC build their chips.

apple doesn't quite have to clout to tell TMSC not to build chips for anyone else.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by chungus_khan on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:18AM (#21388119)
It also doesn't benefit them in any way to do so. AMD doesn't make any products that compete directly with anything they make, and is their primary provider of dedicated Macintosh graphics hardware.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by agloeregrets on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @03:32PM (#21391146)
To top it off, AMD competing well with intel reduces the price of parts Apple puts in Intel Macs.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by gameswithgo on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @12:17PM (#21388848)
good point, it is probably a win win to have more money in the node.
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