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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by Shorel on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:12AM (#21385529)
"they do have a lot of production issues" means they still sell every single processor they make.

New computers are about 80% Intel and 20% AMD. Until this is reversed Intel will still be the kings.

I remember fondly the age of Athlon 64 processors. AMD was a winner. On paper. Intel still beat them in the long run.

And I say this as an AMD fanboy.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by Nursie on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:31AM (#21385613)
In the consumer space AMD appear to now be outselling Intel, in some markets this is reportedly by a considerable amount.

This may be down to the Zen 2 release going well, and it's going to be interesting to see if it's sustained. I say this as a fanboy of neither really, and owner of both!

(I'm really a fanboy of the re-emergence of serious competition in the space 8C/16T for ~$300? Yes please...)

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by abrugsch on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @07:36AM (#21385973)
>(I'm really a fanboy of the re-emergence of serious competition in the space 8C/16T for ~$300? Yes please...) 100% this. The lack of any credible competition in the consumer space for intel really let them get complacent. I jumped to a 2500K sandy bridge as soon as it was apparent it was a game changer. I didn't keep it in the end as I wasn't really using it, so let my father in law have it for his video editing rig. Only now can I answer the question "Is it worth upgrading yet?" with a qualified YES!

I personally have no AMD/intel bias (just happenstance that when I've needed to build a PC, intel had the best price/performing/overclockable part at the time), but I welcome the competition to not have a single supplier stagnate the market with 4C/4T consumer parts for nearly a decade... (currently have a R5 1600 and looking forward to a large range of upgrade options within the AM4 socket - though I am aware the forward compatability may not last much longer - but at least I'm paying attention to the market again!)

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by qes on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @02:58PM (#21390790)
> In the consumer space AMD appear to now be outselling Intel, in some markets this is reportedly by a considerable amount.

Anecdotal, but I'm considering an AMD cpu in my next desktop refresh for the first time in over 15 years.

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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by The_rationalist on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @02:10PM (#21390289)
In the consumer space AMD appear to now be outselling Intel Nonsense, AMD is only outselling Intel on the desktop sales which represents only 20% of x86 cpu sales. ZEN 2 laptops aren't yet released.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by Nursie on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @07:26PM (#21393181)
In the consumer space in which people buy CPUs directly, which I agree is a minority market. Lets wait and see on the rest.
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by rasz on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:22AM (#21385569)
https://wccftech.com/amd-outselling-intel-by-more-than-doubl...
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Re:Intel: 10nm Product Era Has Begun, 7nm on Track by Nokinside on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @07:04AM (#21385771)
Mindfactory is retailer and very small part of the market.

Revenue 2018:

    Intel  $70.8 billion
      AMD   $6.5 billion
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