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Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by 1024core on Saturday October 26, 2019 @04:29PM (#21365983)
"There is no 'e' in 'Scotland'" (if you want to tell "whisky" (Scotch) from "whiskey" (everything else))
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by oscar9926 on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:19PM (#21366283)
Only USA, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland call it Whiskey. Any other country not mentioned that distills and bottles Whisky does not use the 'e'.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by m31415 on Saturday October 26, 2019 @08:04PM (#21367108)
But not all American whiskys are spelt "whiskey", e.g., Maker's Mark: https://www.makersmark.com/
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by yissp on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:02PM (#21367294)
Buy those all have "e"s in them (assuming you expand USA). And hey, Canada and Japan don't have "e"s either. I think we're onto something.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by collyw on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:47PM (#21366444)
I thought it was Scotland that got exclusive use of whisky without the "e" in the same way that only French get to use champagne.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by seanvk on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:00PM (#21366817)
The difference in spelling is due to the fact the word for Uisce Beatha was brought into the English language twice. Once from Irish Gaelic before the Great Vowel shift in English and a second time from Scots Gaelic after the shift.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by pushpop on Saturday October 26, 2019 @06:02PM (#21366525)
Japan also drop the e. Japanese whisky is quite interesting though, some of the stuff is completely out there (eg using seaweed as flavouring) and other stuff could be mistaken for being a scotch. I seem to recall reading that a lot of Japanese distilleries were trained in Scotland.

Last year I had a bottle of whisky from India which I’m pretty sure also dropped the e. That too was a lovely drink and could easily have been mistaken for scotch.

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by steve19 on Saturday October 26, 2019 @06:39PM (#21366709)
A lot of Japanese Whisky isn't even from Japan.

https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/features/19680/not-all-jap...

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by tptacek on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:16PM (#21366891)
I hear this said a lot, but is there an example you can think of of a mainstream Japanese whiskey --- a Nikka or Suntory, for instance --- that isn't 100% Japanese spirit? There's Akashi, but the controversy there is that it's not 100% whiskey, not that it isn't 100% Japanese.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by steve19 on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:46PM (#21367043)
I think the trouble lies in the quantity of aged whisky Japan is exporting. They did not have a lot of whisky production 25+ years and so it is simply not possible for them to be bottling this much whisky from 25 year old Japanese casks.

I hate to link to Bloomberg but this article is pretty good:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-19/that-expe...

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by porknubbins on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:28PM (#21367540)
That was really interesting thanks, did not know that. I like a glass of Yamazaki on the rocks but to me Japanese whiskies have always been a little too smooth and balanced to enjoy neat anyway, compared to a lot of Scotch whiskys which have more character and more rough edges.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by scoot on Saturday October 26, 2019 @06:39PM (#21366706)
Whisky is not a region of Scotland. The use of Champagne is protected because it's a region of France.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by tsimionescu on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:04PM (#21367471)
There is also EU law for the protection of spirits, which have not been typically named after specific regions. For example, ouzo can only be produced in Greece. Not sure what the status of whisk(e)y is on this.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by philwelch on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:14PM (#21367493)
Scotch whisky has to actually be Scotch—i.e. from Scotland. Whisk(e)y can be from anywhere.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by kdmccormick on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:23PM (#21367523)
The way to tell Scotch from other whiskey is that Scotch always says Scotch on it.

While there are patterns with which countries use whisky vs. whiskey, there's no legal requirement.

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by vinay427 on Sunday October 27, 2019 @05:11AM (#21368606)
Technically, although this isn't actually the distinction OP made so you're absolutely right, Scotch isn't the same category as Scottish whisky/whiskey. It doesn't simply mean it's made in Scotland.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by tptacek on Saturday October 26, 2019 @06:56PM (#21366796)
Or you can just ignore all this silliness and spell it in whatever way looks most natural to you.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by oska on Saturday October 26, 2019 @11:08PM (#21367675)
You can and many people do.

However it is not silliness to detail regional variations in spelling, particularly when, as in this case, they give clues to lines of heritage.

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by egdod on Sunday October 27, 2019 @12:07AM (#21367827)
Spelling things correctly and trying not to look ignorant isn’t silliness.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by hannasanarion on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:24PM (#21366314)
Except Japan also uses Whisky without the e
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by frobozz on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:36PM (#21366383)
There is an E in Wales.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by philwelch on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:15PM (#21367496)
But not in Cymru.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by _puk on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:16PM (#21366894)
Eh? I mean, literally, yes, there is an e in Wales, but if we're talking whisky, there isn't..

Wales's primary Whisky distillery [0] calls it whisky.

0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penderyn_(whisky)

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by tsimionescu on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:13PM (#21367491)
The GP is responding to a claim that you could have a rule that it is spelled whisky in countries which don't have an e in their name (whisky in Scotland, whiskEy in IrEland). GP is pointing out, same as you, that Wales would be a counter-example to this rule.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by moogly on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:59PM (#21366512)
This is not a good mnemonic to use at all. Basically only the US and Irish whiskey use 'whiskey' (and legally, you can drop the 'e' in the US), whereas everyone else (India, Taiwan, Japan, WalEs, SwEdEn, GErmany, FrancE, DEnmark, etc.) use 'whisky' (and tend to largely (but not totally) follow SWA regulations). Don't sleep on so-called 'world whisky'. You'll be missing out.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by FabHK on Saturday October 26, 2019 @04:43PM (#21366050)
Indeed. For me the distinction is primarily between Scotch whisky (which is peated and smoky, particularly Islay), and Irish whiskey (not peated (except Connemara), but smooth). American whiskeys (bourbon, rye, etc) are not really my cup of tea, though I’m sure there’s some good stuff out there.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by anfractuosity on Saturday October 26, 2019 @04:51PM (#21366096)
I'm not sure what you mean, regarding peat, lots of Scottish whisky doesn't use peat smoked malt.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by FabHK on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:11PM (#21366230)
You’re right, I should have said “typically”. My understanding is that the malted barley for Scotch is dried with smoke that often (but not always, as you point out) comes from peat, but it’s not dried in closed kilns as it is for Irish whiskey. So while you might have more or less peat, you still have more smoke than in Irish whiskey.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by maccard on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:38PM (#21366394)
There are a small number of distilleries that use peat, almost exclusively the island distilleries. The vast majority of scotch is _not_ peaty. There's at least 50 distilleries in the speyside area/category (notably not peaty), vs 10 in campbelltown and islay.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by stevekemp on Sunday October 27, 2019 @11:14AM (#21370221)
Agreed. Broadly there are three types of Whisky in Scotland:

Highland. Lowland. Island.

Varieties from the same region share characteristics, but they're distinct from each other.

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by hmottestad on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:18PM (#21366275)
I would go as far as to say that most scotch is not peated.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by anfractuosity on Saturday October 26, 2019 @06:24PM (#21366633)
https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usfeatures/maltwhisky... seems to indicate that coke/oil is used these days, with peat being added if wanted for flavours.

I'm curious how historically the kilns would be fired across Scotland, if peat was more prevalent?

http://www.bairds-malt.co.uk/Bairds-Malt/Process/process mentions about using hot air.

https://www.laphroaig.com/en/whisky/our-process - Has some nice videos, including them using solely peat to kiln the malt.

Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by tptacek on Saturday October 26, 2019 @06:29PM (#21366656)
Most distilleries, including the best known, don't malt and dry their own barley to begin with.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by pushpop on Saturday October 26, 2019 @05:58PM (#21366503)
The difference between Irish and scotch whiskies isn’t the smoky flavour. In fact most scotch isn’t peted. It’s the distilling process.
Re:Telling Whiskey from Whisky by stock_toaster on Saturday October 26, 2019 @07:09PM (#21366860)
> It’s the distilling process

As well as the fact that irish whiskey generally has a mashbill containing a portion of unmalted barley. Not sure, but I think it is at _least_ 30% as per the Irish Whiskey Association rules?

Single malt Scotch requires (as per SWA rules) a 100% malted barley mashbill.

Blended Scotch, on the other hand, has no such requirement, and is typically a blend of Single malt Scotch and alcohols from other cereals.